"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

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Girlfriend cries after sex sometimes.....

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Man there's ALWAYS the possibility that a girl is cheating on you, but why are you getting upset because it is Kontroller's opinion that she might be?

Kontroller gives good advice but I think you should chill out and not jump the gun here. You don't know that she is..keep your eyes peeled
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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shaunuk said:
Man there's ALWAYS the possibility that a girl is cheating on you, but why are you getting upset because it is Kontroller's opinion that she might be?

Kontroller gives good advice but I think you should chill out and not jump the gun here. You don't know that she is..keep your eyes peeled

Because it makes sense. She was gone for 10 days 300 miles away doing potentially anything. She was supposed to be helping her sister stage her home to sell....paid her 300 dollars.

And she was acting a little weird when she came back....maybe because I was upset with her a majority of the time. I think my own insecurities are getting the best of me to be honest.

She is starting to get annoyed with my accusations and wonderings of what she has been doing. When I ask her things like "what took so long to get home/here" she gets annoyed. She used to explain but now she just gets annoyed and sour towards me. Maybe I am pushing her to the limit with my own insecurities and smothering her and a year later it has gotten the best of her and she is finally getting irritated knowing she is faithful but my lack of trust makes her feel like crap.



I dunno, I am insecure, lack trust, and think she can do better then me. She is 36/24/36 5' 3" hot as hell and I am a little chubby/round and lack security clearly.


Wish I could get over it and accept the fact that if she wanted to be with other guys she could but she chose me and comes to me every day and has sex with ME nearly every day of the week.


Goddamn I am pathetic....I wouldn't be surprised if she is cheating on me. Even though she is similar in her actions....as long as I give her reason to believe I could be cheating.
 

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She is crying because it feels good! :mad:

Quit overanalyzing this and enjoy it for what it is. Stay away from the insecure cuckold crowd here who thinks anytime a woman walks around the corner and takes five extra minutes to come back she was throwing it down with somebody.

sheeeesh.....
 

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Kontroller doesn't have a very high opnion of women normally. Yeah, she could be cheating, from the info given, I don't think so.

Your insecurities are getting the best of you. Fix that ****.
 

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Mate, play it by ear, if you get reasonable suspicion that she's cheating, take action (dump her).

What you NEED to address, though, is your insecurity. Clearly she knows you're insecure by you nagging her with accusing questions. Don't do it, it's the biggest turn off ever.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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She is starting to get annoyed with my accusations and wonderings of what she has been doing. When I ask her things like "what took so long to get home/here" she gets annoyed. She used to explain but now she just gets annoyed and sour towards me. Maybe I am pushing her to the limit with my own insecurities and smothering her


well duh, of course you are. Stop it. That is the behavior that makes women cheat.

I always tell guys to do to women what women do to them. Here is what she is probably going to say to you soon:

"You know, even if you did cheat on me, if it was just sex, I really wouldn't care."

That is about as directly as a woman will ever tell you she cheated on you.

I would suggest using that line on her and seeing what she says. When you are not fighting, halfway apologize about not trusting her, and then use that line. Say it like it's no big deal. Then shut up and see what she says. Here is your chickspeak answer key:

"Really????? You wouldn't?????" = "I cheated"

OMG that's awful! You would too care!! = "I did not cheat."
 

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Bible_Belt said:
She is starting to get annoyed with my accusations and wonderings of what she has been doing. When I ask her things like "what took so long to get home/here" she gets annoyed. She used to explain but now she just gets annoyed and sour towards me. Maybe I am pushing her to the limit with my own insecurities and smothering her


well duh, of course you are. Stop it. That is the behavior that makes women cheat.

I always tell guys to do to women what women do to them. Here is what she is probably going to say to you soon:

"You know, even if you did cheat on me, if it was just sex, I really wouldn't care."

That is about as directly as a woman will ever tell you she cheated on you.

I would suggest using that line on her and seeing what she says. When you are not fighting, halfway apologize about not trusting her, and then use that line. Say it like it's no big deal. Then shut up and see what she says. Here is your chickspeak answer key:

"Really????? You wouldn't?????" = "I cheated"

OMG that's awful! You would too care!! = "I did not cheat."
I'll have to give that a shot sometime today. What if it backfires. haha:crackup:

I'm kidding, if it backfires she never was worth my time.
 

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"She started a new birth control a few months ago....hormones hormones hormones."

Leykis always told the listeners always wear a condom if you don't want to be a daddy because you can never verify a woman is telling the truth about taking birth control no matter how close to her and in love with her you think you are.

"I've been with her over a year and a half, she really doesn't do much, and if she cheated I think I would be able to tell."

We'd all like to think that but it seldom ever pans out the way we'd hope.

Aside from that there's the problem of societal conditioning and the mindless parrots that prop it up constantly telling us to be overly trusting and to brush aside any legitimate feelings or concerns as paranoia to be quickly glossed over or forgotten.

What this of course means is that when the old gut instinct sense kicks in that there is something rotten in denmark your mind due to all the conditioning brushes it aside and always wants to give people or some chick the benefit of the doubt.

It doesn't help that all the positivity parrots we've got on Sosuave only help to keep other's minds in the dark about their woman's behavior when they should be questioning it periodically but especially so when the Sosuaver in question is so bothered by his woman's behavior he feels the need to make a topic about it. Thats your gut instinct protection mechanism kicking in but again due to all the societal conditioning we seldom ever want to listen to it for long before the conditioning makes us want to brush it away as senseless paranoia even though there may be quite a great deal of sense to it and no paranoia at all.

"I googled it aswell...."Crying after orgasm" I doubt all of those topics and such are because they all cheated.

You said shes cheating or pregnant no other possibility. I think there are many more scenarios."


The positivity pimps and pollyanna optimism crew here on Sosuave will slap you on the back and help you grasp for ever greater straws on why she'd be engaging in this abnormal crying behavior after sex but I will not.

Rather I will agree that there could be other possbile reasons she cried and list them for you but unlike the pollyanna crew I will tell you since I am a realist that these other scenarios I believe to be extremely unlikely from the information you've given us so far so here they are the other possibilities...

1. You and she are practitioner's of the kama sutra or tantric sex and really go into an intense hypnotic mindstate while fvcking which causes you to hallucinate about many beautiful things of which one or both of you cannot stop crying about after the act is completed.

2. She's got depression, bipolar or someother sadness mental illness that causes her to cry at innappropriate times.

3. She's under a lot of pressure in her life and is afflicted with the mental disorder of severe anxiety which can manifest itself in many ways from having panic attacks, laughing at innappropriate times or crying at innapropriate times.

4. A dear family member or friend or pet recently died but she does not want to burden you with the grief of the loss as well so she keeps this to herself but cries sometimes about it after you both have sex because she's so greatful that there's someone who still loves her greatly in her life that of course being you and she feels the love for you and from you the most after you two get done making love/fvcking eachother's brains out etc.

5. She simply finds the act of intense beast fvcking an incredibly beautiful act between two humans and expresses herself by sporadic crying and laughter at having completed the sex acts which she so enjoys.

6. She actually is taking the birth control and its fvcking with her hormones causing her to cry.
 

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KontrollerX said:
"She started a new birth control a few months ago....hormones hormones hormones."

Leykis always told the listeners always wear a condom if you don't want to be a daddy because you can never verify a woman is telling the truth about taking birth control no matter how close to her and in love with her you think you are.

"I've been with her over a year and a half, she really doesn't do much, and if she cheated I think I would be able to tell."

We'd all like to think that but it seldom ever pans out the way we'd hope.

Aside from that there's the problem of societal conditioning and the mindless parrots that prop it up constantly telling us to be overly trusting and to brush aside any legitimate feelings or concerns as paranoia to be quickly glossed over or forgotten.

What this of course means is that when the old gut instinct sense kicks in that there is something rotten in denmark your mind due to all the conditioning brushes it aside and always wants to give people or some chick the benefit of the doubt.

It doesn't help that all the positivity parrots we've got on Sosuave only help to keep other's minds in the dark about their woman's behavior when they should be questioning it periodically but especially so when the Sosuaver in question is so bothered by his woman's behavior he feels the need to make a topic about it. Thats your gut instinct protection mechanism kicking in but again due to all the societal conditioning we seldom ever want to listen to it for long before the conditioning makes us want to brush it away as senseless paranoia even though there may be quite a great deal of sense to it and no paranoia at all.

"I googled it aswell...."Crying after orgasm" I doubt all of those topics and such are because they all cheated.

You said shes cheating or pregnant no other possibility. I think there are many more scenarios."


The positivity pimps and pollyanna optimism crew here on Sosuave will slap you on the back and help you grasp for ever greater straws on why she'd be engaging in this abnormal crying behavior after sex but I will not.

Rather I will agree that there could be other possbile reasons she cried and list them for you but unlike the pollyanna crew I will tell you since I am a realist that these other scenarios I believe to be extremely unlikely from the information you've given us so far so here they are the other possibilities...

1. You and she are practitioner's of the kama sutra or tantric sex and really go into an intense hypnotic mindstate while fvcking which causes you to hallucinate about many beautiful things of which one or both of you cannot stop crying about after the act is completed.

2. She's got depression, bipolar or someother sadness mental illness that causes her to cry at innappropriate times.

3. She's under a lot of pressure in her life and is afflicted with the mental disorder of severe anxiety which can manifest itself in many ways from having panic attacks, laughing at innappropriate times or crying at innapropriate times.

4. A dear family member or friend or pet recently died but she does not want to burden you with the grief of the loss as well so she keeps this to herself but cries sometimes about it after you both have sex because she's so greatful that there's someone who still loves her greatly in her life that of course being you and she feels the love for you and from you the most after you two get done making love/fvcking eachother's brains out etc.

5. She simply finds the act of intense beast fvcking an incredibly beautiful act between two humans and expresses herself by sporadic crying and laughter at having completed the sex acts which she so enjoys.

6. She actually is taking the birth control and its fvcking with her hormones causing her to cry.
Much better post man, much better. I can honestly say that she didn't cheat on me. If she did I am a complete fool that is blind and can't see through things. I am insecure as hell sometimes, but after I sit back and think about things there is really no way she would. But like I said, if she did/does I am a fool and blind as a bat.

My gut tells me she is clean and honest. Good girl, really.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Because it makes sense. She was gone for 10 days 300 miles away doing potentially anything. She was supposed to be helping her sister stage her home to sell....paid her 300 dollars.

And she was acting a little weird when she came back....maybe because I was upset with her a majority of the time. I think my own insecurities are getting the best of me to be honest.

She is starting to get annoyed with my accusations and wonderings of what she has been doing. When I ask her things like "what took so long to get home/here" she gets annoyed. She used to explain but now she just gets annoyed and sour towards me. Maybe I am pushing her to the limit with my own insecurities and smothering her and a year later it has gotten the best of her and she is finally getting irritated knowing she is faithful but my lack of trust makes her feel like crap.



I dunno, I am insecure, lack trust, and think she can do better then me. She is 36/24/36 5' 3" hot as hell and I am a little chubby/round and lack security clearly.


Wish I could get over it and accept the fact that if she wanted to be with other guys she could but she chose me and comes to me every day and has sex with ME nearly every day of the week.


Goddamn I am pathetic....I wouldn't be surprised if she is cheating on me. Even though she is similar in her actions....as long as I give her reason to believe I could be cheating.
Obviously I would cheat on you to. What are you her father. You don't need to know what she is doing and where she is every second of her life. Your not her owner your just her boyfriend. Which are easily replaced if they become 2 clingy.
 

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For goodness sakes - do some reconnaissance and surveillance already!

Quit telling her, making her aware of your suspicions, and find out for yourself!

A woman who is sexing anyone who is not her husband could be sexing ANYONE - the shame barrier has been broken already - nothing stopping them - surely not their principles!
 

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I don't know how you guys got on the subject of cheating so quickly. Of course it's always possible, but no need to be paranoid here.

This girl I'm seeing right now cries sometimes after sex. It's kind of weird the first couple of times but you get used to it. It almost always happens after a big orgasm. If you want to be really specific, it's probably a result of powerful emotions + birth control... But as someone said a few posts ago it's a nice reaction in a way because you feel like you've given her a really powerful release.
 

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pvf94 said:
thats gonna be hard to do when half of your opinions here say shes cheating. Man a year and a half wasted. :mad:
Don't be absurd! SHE noticed she was crying with overwhelming emotional catharsis, and commented on it! She wasn't shying away from you, or looking/acting guilty or miserable. She had a Teargasm, plain and simple.

Once again, GOOD STUFF! :)

Johnny Soporno
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keep plenty of kleenex bedside and by the couch. :yes:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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