"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Girlfriend answers in riddles...help me out please...

Fuglydude

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Hey all,

I've recently finally decided to give up the man-***** lifestyle, and have committed to exclusively date one girl. She's beautiful (she's a model), smart, and has a great heart/personality. Pretty much your classic good girl as well...hasnt' ever tried any drugs, very monogamous...she doesn't even have any piercings...the kinda girl u wanna marry... Very classy, fairly traditional, etc.

Myself on the other hand... oh boi... I'm an exotic entertainer (yes, I take off my clothes for money), I smoke marijuana regularly (not a smart thing to do when you're taking 6 courses in university), I'm also naturally promiscuous (prior to her I'd normally date 3-4 women simultaneously), I also have very liberal values when it comes to drugs and sex.

We're just so different...and it bothers me because I can't for the life of me figure out why she's taking the chance in being in a relationship with me despite all my bad habits that she doesn't endorse. I ask her openly why she's with me and she tells me its "tough to articulate how i feel", and how "You just know what to do...", and "things just fall into place with you".....answers i find cryptic, almost riddle-like...Also she's the one and ONLY girl I've EVER dated who has NEVER complemented me on my appearance. I'm friggin confused, and starting to feel insecure because I don't know why she's even with me.

This is my first real relationship. Previously girls only seemed to want me for sex...in the last 5-6 months I hooked up with 10 girls and never made it past the 3rd date with any girl I dated without getting sexual.

This relationship stuff is really new to me and i have no idea how to interpret what my girl is telling me...am I overthinking? Your replies are appreciated because I'm lost/confused.

its like playing a ball control-style offense in football, whereas I'm used to a quick-strike offense.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Your over analayzing this whole thing. Calm down Casanova.

Instead of trying to work out what she's on about, listen less to her words, and keep a closer eye on her actions. What do they tell you?

Dont worry so much about what chicks say, but more what they do and you'l soon find its one of the best tools in your armoury.

Sounds like you might have met your own match, the fact that she's not gobsmacked by your looks or differences. Arn't you forgetting you said she was \ is a model. She's prolly dated lots of pretty boys..

Why would she date some boring smuck, when she can date someone who's exciting and fun, even if there are differences with the drugs etc..

Relax, and please stop asking her why she;s with you, else one day she will question it herself. Take control.
 

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Fuglydude said:
I'm friggin confused, and starting to feel insecure because I don't know why she's even with me.
I have a friend who feels the exact same way. THAT FRIEND IS A GIRL BY THE WAY. :rolleyes:

What's wrong with you? Stop thinking like a woman.
 

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TillTheEndOfTime said:
I have a friend who feels the exact same way. THAT FRIEND IS A GIRL BY THE WAY. :rolleyes:

What's wrong with you? Stop thinking like a woman.
I agree. Stop worrying like a woman and enjoy what you have. Your girl obviously feels something special with you that goes beyond regular words. Why would you want to screw it up and make it less special by making her define it?

So what this is your first real relationship. Whatever you're doing seems to be working. One thing for sure, your girl is probably not attracted to you obsessing over why she enjoys your company.
 
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Fuglydude said:
... I've recently finally decided to give up the man-***** lifestyle, and have committed to exclusively date one girl. She's beautiful (she's a model), smart, and has a great heart/personality. Pretty much your classic good girl as well...hasnt' ever tried any drugs, very monogamous...she doesn't even have any piercings...the kinda girl u wanna marry... Very classy, fairly traditional, etc. .
Your delusional kid!! She is NOT a "good" girl - she is a hor - take the blinders off and quit being smitten by hors!!!!!

Wake up, The Matrix has you!!!!!!!!!
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Guys thanx for the kick in the ass haha... i needed that... :kick:

K I'll stop questioning her, and enjoy it... Pec major, thanx for the tip on womens' actions bro... I like that a lot. She actually says she avoids dating really hot guys because "they have a tendency to be flighty, etc" ... and she's only been in monogamous relationships w/ almost no casual sex... Notably however, I had her in my bed topless our first date w/o even trying to kiss her hahaha. We've only been exclusive for 3 weeks so its still early, although I've known her for like 4-5 months now. I guess we'll just have to see how things transpire...

Being in a relationship is just so different and new for me, I guess people are scared of new things that they don't really know how to approach.

Thanks again for the tips.
 

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Last Man Standing said:
Your delusional kid!! She is NOT a "good" girl - she is a hor - take the blinders off and quit being smitten by hors!!!!!

Wake up, The Matrix has you!!!!!!!!!
It depends on your definition of "hor" bro... I do wish she would be a bit more freaky in bed like me tho...
 
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Remember, you are NOT in a "relationship" - you are just the next pimp in line!!!!!!!! She is with you because you have a penis if you had a vagina she wouldn't have a thing to do with you!!!! :rolleyes:
 
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It depends on your definition of "hor" bro... I do wish she would be a bit more freaky in bed like me tho...
I can smell the ho from here, and yet you have her on your lap and her titties in your mouth before you even kiss her and you can't smell the ho??? What's wrong with you??
 

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Haha, ya they're day-um nice titties too... Nah man, I think I give off slut vibes cuz girls only normally seem to want me for flings/sex/quick hook ups... And being in my line of work you do meet lotsa girls... so its not hard. U get lotsa practice and get pretty decent at the game... I got to the point where I would almost bet money on whether or not I could get physical with a girl on a first date...but in the end decided its bad for karma.

As for "hors"... I'm one myself... so who am I to judge what others are?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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lol...she's just got better game than you.

She just knows how to hold your interest and keep you on your toes...stop asking questions and just enjoy your relationship.
 

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lol...she's just got better game than you.

She just knows how to hold your interest and keep you on your toes...stop asking questions and just enjoy your relationship.
Haha, ya man i tease her about being a player all the time!

Thanks for the posts everyone...helped me out a lot.
 

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Haha, ya man i tease her about being a player all the time!

Thanks for the posts everyone...helped me out a lot.
She is...but that's not always a bad thing. I am also a natural player who is a female. Don't try to be...it just comes naturally. As long as she isn't playing you to get material objects or take advantage than the worst she is playing for is to make you marry her. She could also just use the skills to have a good relationship with you (that's what I do). She'll be very easy and enjoyable to be with but a challenge to hold if you don't keep her on her toes while also respecting her and treating her well. She'll steal your heart in a New York Minute...and if you're lucky enough to steal hers she will be a very loyal, devoted and dependable partner. You're going to want to marry her...so make sure that you cool your jets and don't rush if you get that urge. If you run into a tricky patch you need help with...PM me and I'll try to help you out.
 

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Thanks Wyldfire...so a female player hey? ... hmmm... i bet you could get into my pants pretty easily... u'd have to buy me a nice dinner and a dozen red roses and call me pretty every 3 minutes though... :p

I tease her about a player, but don't really see her as one...maybe I should change that, still gonna tease her tho... I'll be givin her a massage, and be like "you're SUCH a player... you have a topless exotic dancer in bed with you rubbing you down...and u didn't even have to try!" I know she's not into me for financial stuff cuz i'm a broke azz university student... plus she's pretty giving in a variety of ways as well...

But no, in all seriousness, thanx for the help again. Like I said this is totally completely foreign territory for me... And because I don't feel like I'm in control I'm afraid I'll turn into a wussy...atleast I know what I gotta change. Its just really weird too cuz we're so different...in so many ways...yet have this really cool connection... spooky stuff...

Thanx for ur offer to PM... I may have to use ur services at some point...
 

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Perhaps it's just me but I find it a bit disheartening that you can spell promiscuous and monogamous but not boy.

As for the rest of the stuff take off your dress and stop being her girlfriend. She is a freak in bed. YOU need to reach inside and uncage that animal in her pvssy and throat.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Last Man Standing said:
Remember, you are NOT in a "relationship" - you are just the next pimp in line!!!!!!!! She is with you because you have a penis if you had a vagina she wouldn't have a thing to do with you!!!! :rolleyes:
Just curious, how do you know this? Do you know the girl personally or something? Or do you just consider all Americans/Europeans hors?

If so, that's pretty racist, isn't it? You wouldn't like it if I called your race a bunch of sub-humans, would you?
 
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Just curious, how do you know this? Do you know the girl personally or something? Or do you just consider all Americans/Europeans hors?

If so, that's pretty racist, isn't it? You wouldn't like it if I called your race a bunch of sub-humans, would you?
I am an American and of European descent so I don't understand your message!!

She is a hor! Read the post!!! And she is a Topless Exotic Hor to boot!!! I can conjecture that she has had dozens, if not, hundreds of pimps!!!
 

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She is...but that's not always a bad thing. I am also a natural player who is a female. Don't try to be...it just comes naturally. As long as she isn't playing you to get material objects or take advantage than the worst she is playing for is to make you marry her. She could also just use the skills to have a good relationship with you (that's what I do). She'll be very easy and enjoyable to be with but a challenge to hold if you don't keep her on her toes while also respecting her and treating her well. She'll steal your heart in a New York Minute...and if you're lucky enough to steal hers she will be a very loyal, devoted and dependable partner. You're going to want to marry her...so make sure that you cool your jets and don't rush if you get that urge. If you run into a tricky patch you need help with...PM me and I'll try to help you out.
Wyldfire is actually trying to make a pass at this fugly dude. She actually asked to pm her. LOL I can't believe it. Hey Fugly dude after your done banging wyldfire within 3 dates let us know how it went.


PIMP THE SOSUAVE HORS
 

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LMS. the guy is the exotic dancer. You got it backwards.


And, yep, Wyldefire is making a pass at him. "PM me and I'll try to help you out." Wyldefire says to the exotic dancer....I wonder what she is gonna help him with!!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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