"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Girl withdraws once interest is shown

Fumbduck

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I've noticed this and it's really screwing up my game because I see this pattern repeating itself in basically all girls I go out with. I need to figure out if its something i'm doing, or just the way girls are naturally. (Age of girls i'm going out with are between 20-23)

The scenario goes like this:
Meet the girl initially and get a number. 9 times out of 10 they text me first to say hello. We text back and fourth, i'm flirty and funny with the texts and use it as a means to set up a date.

Once the date is set up, I pick them up and bring them to what I have planned. Usually its an action date like mini golf, go karts or something. After that I like to go grab a coffee and chill for a little bit. Gives us time to switch gears and get a little closer. At the end of the date, I will go in for the kiss if it's appropriate to show them i'm into them.

Now here's were my problem is. After the first date, they withdraw from contact. If they were "liking" all my posts on facebook, they don't anymore. They will text but it seems like i'm the one putting in more effort and essentially, chasing. I NEVER chase and ultimately these girls lose interest. Am I wrong?

Thoughts?
 

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yuppaz

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I have a hard time with that age group. Maybe on the date you introduced them to someone (a version of you) who they didn't think you were. Are you the same when you meet them at first vs. on the date?

ex. Are you smooth charmer guy when you meet but love struck puppy on the date?

Are you ****y, don't give a damn, Ima gunna f*ck you guy when you meet and then prince charmless on the date?

Also have you ever tried going for drinks instead, and actually sleeping with her on the first date? I dunno for sure but seems like younger ones have different rules, almost like if you DON'T f*ck them your a giant p*ssy. I could be very wrong about that but fits my experiences (though limited) with the younger ones.
 

Chamber36

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I assume, because they text you first, that you don't initially indicate 'too' much interest. If on these dates you turn out to be such a nice guy, it might not fit with the image of you they had in their heads.

I agree with the above post.
 

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"Dates" (mini golf etc..) are so 2010.

Try making the date at your house. Tell her you rented a couple dvds and just want to "chill out, talk, and get to know each other". Let her do her ASD "we're not hooking up" etc.. just smile and laugh and say "I know, I just want to get to know you. :)". Then when she comes over lay the mack on her. These girls want to get fvcked. They just don't want to seem slvtty about it. Sexual innuendos are your friend. Say what she wants to hear, and then have your actions do what she truly wants you to do. Nah what I mean?

Good luck.
 

PapiChulo

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How do you get them to text you first? They have your number, I assume, right? It's either shows the high IL on their part or that you seem too much of a "nice" guy, imho. They probably friendzone you right there and then. I had never had a woman accept invitation to my place if she didnt want to get laid. They aren't dumb, they know what's gonna happen because of the way I am. If you wanna get laid, follow what Scars said- that's you essentially luring them in. Keep in mind, that this age group is composed of 80% AWs.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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