"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Girl with bf is attracted to me and I feel the same

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There's this girl in a few of my classes that I started liking. I have a good feeling she likes me too cuz when I talk to her she smiles and plays with her hair and what not. In fact in class today she asked the teacher if she culd come to the front to sit next to me, always wants to be my partner, and gives me little hits and all that good stuff that tells she is attracted. But in class today I asked who she was goin to prom with and she was like her bf. I am still going to try get her but how do I take it up a notch?


P.S - Shes not the only girl im flirting with just happens to be the one im most interested in at the time.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Or she could just be a c0cktease, who having seen how easily she is reeling you in, is enjoying the attention and playing with your feelings.

Whatever she says is meaningless.

Here's how to work out how she is truly interested:

- Invite her somewhere where the two of you will be alone (e.g. homework date, like someone suggested).

- Tease her and get physical.

- If she goes along with it, she is into you.

- If she doesn't, she's not.


It's that simple.
 

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lol@ everyone encouraging him to fuk a girl with a bf. ahh well
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I probably do sound corny with the touching hair stuff but those are some hints. But yea Im going to get her # 2mm and invite her over for the break. Im a newbie to this stuff, and yes I have read the Don Juan Bible but I still do get nervous on dates, after I get her some place I might get stuck and cant find a way to really like tease her and kino without being wierd.
 

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She has a bf for a reason.

You can spend all the time with her you want and can speculate on all the little "hints" you pick up on all you want, but as long as the above is a fact you're better served going for girls that are available. The fact that she has a boyfriend should 100% OUTWEIGH any "signs" she gives you. the fact that she has a boyfriend is the ultimate sign.

I would go find another girl, and trust me, there are PLEEENTY. you're still young and what you're describing is a early sign of one-itis. Sooner you start having fun with other girls the better :)

spoken from experience
 

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blackwolf said:
lol@ everyone encouraging him to fuk a girl with a bf. ahh well

I've banged girls with boyfriends. Sometimes it happens. What's the big deal?

As long as no one is telling him to fall in love.
 

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Mantis Toboggan said:
I've banged girls with boyfriends. Sometimes it happens. What's the big deal?

As long as no one is telling him to fall in love.
well, I think the debate of whether or not to make a girl cheat is another discussion altogether but it seems like OP doesn't have much experience with girls. To be some girl's sidepiece isn't a great start for him, don't you think? he said himself that he is new to it, so there's the risk that he will in the end catch feelings

IMO its not worth it to be a homewrecker in high school when you know the girl, her bf, and they know you. There are too many other girls around who aren't worth the trouble.
 

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Mantis, Real Talk, iliketennis, and runner83 all win this thread!

Judge nismo has some addendums. Don't catch feelings for this girl. If she's into you, she will get close and f**k and/ or blow you. Otherwise, just take her words with a grain of salt.

BTW Whether or not she has a BF, if she was attracted to you, she wouldn't have brought up a BF. But she did, so she's just not that into you. And quit over-analyzing these "so-called signs!"

You are guilty of catching feelings and oneitis development. This carries a fine of one (1) week with your hands and a trip to Friendzone-Platonic, Colorado. The court will also order you to go after more chicks before you get your feelings hurt.

Thank you OP, but your princess is in another castle.

Case closed. Court is adjourned.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Ive had a bad experience with one itis before and vowed never to have it again. Im not in "love" with this girl I just want to hit it to tell u the truth and she is kinda coming to me I cant avoid her because we got alot of classes together and she always wants to be my partner and what not. And I know alot of girls that will mess around even if they have a bf. Same situation with some other girl from my english class, she likes me but has a bf, yet she sends me pics and flirts with me alot. I have no interest with her so i dont really try anything.
 

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Real Talk said:
well, I think the debate of whether or not to make a girl cheat is another discussion altogether but it seems like OP doesn't have much experience with girls. To be some girl's sidepiece isn't a great start for him, don't you think? he said himself that he is new to it, so there's the risk that he will in the end catch feelings

IMO its not worth it to be a homewrecker in high school when you know the girl, her bf, and they know you. There are too many other girls around who aren't worth the trouble.

I totally agree. I don't think that this particular guy can handle the act of snatching someone else's girl.

But in an overall sense, I don't really hate on a man for trying to take another guy's girl. I'd rather avoid it. I like a nice, quiet life. No drama. But sometimes it happens.
 

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Mantis Toboggan said:
I totally agree. I don't think that this particular guy can handle the act of snatching someone else's girl.

But in an overall sense, I don't really hate on a man for trying to take another guy's girl. I'd rather avoid it. I like a nice, quiet life. No drama. But sometimes it happens.
what her bf dont know wont hurt him :whistle: thats one reason im not too big on relationships right now. They just wont work. No matter how much your gf likes you she will eventually end up messing around with some one else. HS girls just don't know what they want..
 

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remember, there is a good chance that the BF is AFC, AFC's have been known to kill for pu$$y ;)
 

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She has already mentioned a boyfriend but still accepts your attention anyway, hence she probably enjoys the attention and wants someone to do her homework, if you want to u can always flirt with her but no guarantees where will that go. Whatever it is, don't develop what they call here as Oneitis for her....also keep up flirting with other girls, she sounds like a waste of time...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Lots of times, a girl may no longer have interest in her BF, but hates the idea of being single. So, they'll stay with the BF while they look out other suitors.

This doesn't necessarily mean you should go after her. However, if she's coming after YOU, and is consistently asking YOU to do stuff, there's a chance she's thisclose to dumping the bum and is hoping you'll take over as the new man in her life.

I had this happen a while back: a girl I knew had a boyfriend that she was constantly complaining about. They had been dating for 3 years and all she did was go on and on about how badly he treated her. Despite this, she still wasn't willing to dump him for fear that she wouldn't be able to find anyone else to date her.

Finally, one night I hung out with her and one of her friends, and while she was away doing something else her friend mentioned to me that she had expressed interest in wanting to hook up with me.

Fast-forward to later that night: after we dropped her friend off, we went out for a 2 A.M. meal, went back to my place and hooked up. We agreed we would still be "just friends" after it... and yet, lo and behold: the next day, she broke up with her boyfriend.

I say all that to say: it IS possible for this type of thing to happen. Just don't expect it, and don't push for it - if she decides you're the next one in line, she'll let you know.
 
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