"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Girl with BF from work - what should my game plan be?

utax

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There is this new girl in my work. She was hired about 2 months ago. She is really hot, by USA standards she is easily a HB10, but by eastern european standards I would rate her about HB8.5-9. She is a model. So at first I was ignoring her, but I saw that she was giving me an eye. Then after few weeks I started to talk to her, busted her balls, C+F, etc. We went to lunch few times and I felt she was pretty into me. Then there was a company recreation event for a few days and she went to this event with her boyfriend, that she never mentioned before. Of course I played it cool and pushed her away playfully when she came to me etc... In the afterparty of the event, her BF was already asleep in tent, so we hit it off and made out. At first she said we shouldn't do that and I agreed and I said that I was dating another girl, actually I do, but she is away for the summer. I even told her that I don't date girls from work, but she said that we wouldn't date, just enjoy this night. So we made out real nice, I think I could take it to end, but we actually didn't have a place to do it. So after the event I had 1 week off work, so we didn't meet. She sent me some messages on cell, I just replied them an played it cool. So when I returned to the work she was all over me, we made out everywhere possible. Btw she is a model, so she even sent me her nude photos (don't ask them!). So I asked her out, we went out in the evening riding bicycles. We went to closed park it was late already, made out, I took her top off, made out for a really long time, but we were unconfortable to fvck there... So right now we are making out in the work every day...

So I feel I am developing feelings for her. I have started to care for her and not doing so much C+F anymore. I am starting to chat with her more, setting up meetings, etc. What should I do to lay her? Should I back off a bit? Is there a possibility for LTR? She said that she is not one boy girl, so I am pretty sure she has cheated on her BF before. Btw she is together with her BF for 2 years. How could I get emotionally detached from her?

Any comment welcome, just don't ask for her nude pics... :)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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justiceseeker

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utax said:
There is this new girl in my work. She was hired about 2 months ago. She is really hot, by USA standards she is easily a HB10, but by eastern european standards I would rate her about HB8.5-9. She is a model. So at first I was ignoring her, but I saw that she was giving me an eye. Then after few weeks I started to talk to her, busted her balls, C+F, etc. We went to lunch few times and I felt she was pretty into me. Then there was a company recreation event for a few days and she went to this event with her boyfriend, that she never mentioned before. Of course I played it cool and pushed her away playfully when she came to me etc... In the afterparty of the event, her BF was already asleep in tent, so we hit it off and made out. At first she said we shouldn't do that and I agreed and I said that I was dating another girl, actually I do, but she is away for the summer. I even told her that I don't date girls from work, but she said that we wouldn't date, just enjoy this night. So we made out real nice, I think I could take it to end, but we actually didn't have a place to do it. So after the event I had 1 week off work, so we didn't meet. She sent me some messages on cell, I just replied them an played it cool. So when I returned to the work she was all over me, we made out everywhere possible. Btw she is a model, so she even sent me her nude photos (don't ask them!). So I asked her out, we went out in the evening riding bicycles. We went to closed park it was late already, made out, I took her top off, made out for a really long time, but we were unconfortable to fvck there... So right now we are making out in the work every day...

So I feel I am developing feelings for her. I have started to care for her and not doing so much C+F anymore. I am starting to chat with her more, setting up meetings, etc. What should I do to lay her? Should I back off a bit? Is there a possibility for LTR? She said that she is not one boy girl, so I am pretty sure she has cheated on her BF before. Btw she is together with her BF for 2 years. How could I get emotionally detached from her?

Any comment welcome, just don't ask for her nude pics... :)
It's bullshyt that you know she has a boyfriend and you're doing this. By the way, if she has such little respect for her guy that she's messing around with you behind his back, what do you think your future holds. She has no integrity and you'll be the next one being cheated on.
 

AKA FLEX

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Don't get attached to her, because the above guy is right -- she'll do the same for you. But bang her if you can! Who cares if she has a BF? If she ain't married, she's fair game.
 

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Thinking about the fact that your just a fun toy to play with while she is screwing over her boyfriend behind his back (and would in turn do that to you if you were with her) would be a start to breaking attachment in my head. Character is important to me though. I would have a lack of respect for the girl (based on what she has done/said), which would in turn ruin any feelings I would have for her. I would refuse to get charmed by anyone that would treat me like nothing more than a walking dildo.
 

Jeffst1980

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When a girl is cheating on her boyfriend with you, it's about her, not you. Don't misconstrue it as legitimate interest on her part, it sounds like it's all a game for her.

It's really not cool to pursue girls with boyfriends like this. It's bad karma, for one thing, and you're bound to push the envelope until you get caught...let's hope this dude isn't the violent type...
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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slickaz

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dude take my word..its not worth it.
maybe you read the drama i had last week with a german chic who had a bf and i terminated her orifice only to regret.

The boys here warned me to be careful due to the bf, which im glad i did.however he did have my fone number..i still get texts from him saying hes gonna start a fight with me...im not scared of..but its just not worth it.

NEXT HER after you FLEX her
 

The Bat

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Nude pics please.

No seriously. To get emotionally detached from her, send us her nude pics with a contact info.

All of us will set up dates with her and take her away from you whenever you're too busy.

We'll also post FR/LR so you can really see how easy of a slut she really is.

Then maybe one of us will develop one-itis over her and make a thread about it asking whether we should get into a LTR with her.

So seriously, send us the nude pics and contact info.
 

falcon814

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LTR?
you serious? Don't even think about that with that girl.
 

utax

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Thanks guys you really cleared my head... So I guess I should bang her and then next her. Hopefully it won't get to messy because of her BF. She said that he is pretty violent, but I think I could take him. Not that I would like to fight him for this slut...

So do you have any tips for laying her?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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ProtoMan1

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utax said:
Thanks guys you really cleared my head... So I guess I should bang her and then next her. Hopefully it won't get to messy because of her BF. She said that he is pretty violent, but I think I could take him. Not that I would like to fight him for this slut...

So do you have any tips for laying her?
Hopefully her bf kicks your @ss because you are being a douchebag. What is with all the threads of guys trying to fvck girls with bfs. Talk about being an afc.
 

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Seriously, she might just be tired of her old BF. In my experience, I've done many girls with BF's. But they all came from relationships they wanted to end anyway. If you have a healthy relationship with your girl, she will stay faithfull.

But if you're insecure about LTR, enter into an open relationship. Trick is, you have to totally be OK with her doing other guys - even your friends! Then again, you are free to do whoever you like as well - and maybe even together with her! :)
 

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First off your a huge chump if you get into a LTR with this two timing slvt. Second off, why in the world do you think European stadards are higher than here?? LOL

No doubt there are some super hot Euro chicks, but god damn all the ones I met when I've been there need to see a dentist badly and need to eat some food.


PIMP
 

utax

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Pimp-sicle said:
Second off, why in the world do you think European stadards are higher than here?? LOL

No doubt there are some super hot Euro chicks, but god damn all the ones I met when I've been there need to see a dentist badly and need to eat some food.

PIMP
Western european girls are ugly, but I am talking about eastern europe. You should go there and see for yourself... :)
 
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