Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Hi

So I've been seeing this girl for around 7 weeks now, shes great I really like her, although she has a very large friends group, male and female. She spend a lot of time with her friends, 5/6 nights a week.

We talk daily, we've been on 7 dates and things are going great, although she's always busy. Whenever we go out it's on her terms. She's specifically stated she wants to take things slow, so I've not really pressed to see her more often although I'd like too. Should I say something? I'd like to spend more time with her, especially on weekends, she's never around on a weekend.

I believe she is interested as she's demonstrated many IOI's, am I just pushing too hard, maybe being needy?

TLDR; Do I just let things progress naturally or do I press to see her more often?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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You have the right to ask for what you want as much as she does. Its not all about her.

Just be prepared for the possibility that she will not go along with what you want. She seems to be spinning plates emotionally and spreading out her attention, while you are focused only on her. You are putting all your eggs in one basket while she has 20 eggs in 20 baskets.
 

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She's never flaked and always seems to be enjoying herself when we're together, so I do believe she has genuine interest. I'm pretty sure she's not seeing other guys and they are just genuine friends and I know she's had bad experiences with past relationships which is why I think she wants to spend more time with her friends and less with me. Maybe I'm just over analyzing and need to worry less.
 

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She's never flaked and always seems to be enjoying herself when we're together, so I do believe she has genuine interest. I'm pretty sure she's not seeing other guys and they are just genuine friends and I know she's had bad experiences with past relationships which is why I think she wants to spend more time with her friends and less with me. Maybe I'm just over analyzing and need to worry less.[/QUOTE

Are you having sex?


Are you having sex?
 

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No not yet, all meetings have been in a public place, we've not been around each others places yet
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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No not yet, all meetings have been in a public place, we've not been around each others places yet
You've known her for 7 weeks,had 7 dates,and haven't had sex yet.

I smell a rat.
 

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I'm guessing you are both 18 or over?
If you are ready for her panties to drop, you need to escalate. This means you are going to need to man up and take the lead. YOU plan the next date. Make it just the two of you, and have it end at your place. Just tell her you are planning a surprise for just her so you can get her alone on a date.
 

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No not yet, all meetings have been in a public place, we've not been around each others places yet

If you dont escalate and try to have sex you are just her friend. 7 dates and no sex is a one way street to the friend zone.

This is what I do. I will meet the girl at the venue on the first two dates. The third date I suggest we meet at my place so we can drive together. Go out on date back to my place for a drink and sex.

If you meet her at a venue you can always suggest going back to your place for a drink. I have had women attack me on the first date and suggest going back to my place.

You have to escalate with kino to let the woman know that you are not just a friend but want sex.

Start escalating or you will just be her friend that she likes to kill time with.
 

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Thanks for the replies, I think I might have missed a few queues on her end. Hopefully I can rectify this
 

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You need to get her over to your place asap. A couple drinks and try to smash. If she resists and makes a big deal about it, you're in the FZ and it's too late.

DO NOT bring up "wanting to see more of her". Period. You will lose.

I would do the OPPOSITE. Try to smash her the next "date". Your place only. After that, however it goes down, contact her a little less and initiate less, see her a little less. Make yourself more scarce and PURPOSELY start talking to other women, especially if she doesn't put out when you escalate.

This seems like poor advice if youre a BETA, but if she is interested in more you have to let her feel you drifting off. If she doesn't notice, she wants nothing to do with you romantically. If she does want more, she will bring it up to you. But she has to initiate that discussion.

Trust me, this will work or she will stop wasting your time.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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She spend a lot of time with her friends, 5/6 nights a week.
this is the amount of time you need to spend with your friends and other girls

She's specifically stated she wants to take things slow
that's something girls only say when they're trying to cuck you, please tell me you have sex with her every time you see her

I believe she is interested as she's demonstrated many IOI's, am I just pushing too hard, maybe being needy?

TLDR; Do I just let things progress naturally or do I press to see her more often?
you're way more invested than she is, she thinks your relationship is casual, you cannot change her mind only she can change her mind, this means that you must believe and accept that you are in a casual relationship
 

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No not yet, all meetings have been in a public place, we've not been around each others places yet
oh dear god man.

tell me you're 15
 

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Hi
So I've been seeing this girl for around 7 weeks now, shes great I really like her, although she has a very large friends group, male and female. She spend a lot of time with her friends, 5/6 nights a week.
No she doesn't. She tells you that because she doesn't want to go out with you.

We talk daily,
Why?

we've been on 7 dates and things are going great, although she's always busy.
That's what you think. This is a dual reality. If things are going great, she isn't "busy" when you come up.

Whenever we go out it's on her terms. She's specifically stated she wants to take things slow, so I've not really pressed to see her more often although I'd like too. Should I say something? I'd like to spend more time with her, especially on weekends, she's never around on a weekend.
She's around alright. She's not around for you.

I believe she is interested as she's demonstrated many IOI's, am I just pushing too hard, maybe being needy?

TLDR; Do I just let things progress naturally or do I press to see her more often?
No, you find a new chick. You've been in the friend zone for a while, pal. Read the DJ Bible. Familiarize yourself with the game. And dammit stop talking to women daily. That's the worst thing you could do.
 
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