"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I was out with a friend of my last night and i was getting drunk. she didn't want too. so everything was good when we was at the pub. but later when we was at the casion. so at the casino we was chilling n stuff. then when we was waling i grab her hand to pull her a long cos she was was taking to long. she pull away. at the time i thought nothing of it. and i still do now a day later. but i got a message today saying that she was upset with me. becuse she dosen't like public despelays of affection. i was like. lol your crazy.

i was just wondering if any of you have encounted this before? if so how would you deal with it?

(just to let you know. she is a friend so i'm just using her to practice my game. she wont do me cos she only dose one guy at a time witch she told me. so i don't care.)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I liked your response. I would just say "Lol, you're weird" in a joking manner, and forget about it.

Was there anything you were doing that could have been coming off as socially awkward or uncalibrated? I might look at that, and if so I might try to tone it down or be a little more smooth.

Pulling a girl by the hand doesn't even sound like a public display of affection, so it's kind of strange that it bothered her. It's more of a "come on" move. Unless she was actually irritated that you were trying to drag her off before she was ready.
 

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zekko said:
I liked your response. I would just say "Lol, you're weird" in a joking manner, and forget about it.

Was there anything you were doing that could have been coming off as socially awkward or uncalibrated? I might look at that, and if so I might try to tone it down or be a little more smooth.

Pulling a girl by the hand doesn't even sound like a public display of affection, so it's kind of strange that it bothered her. It's more of a "come on" move. Unless she was actually irritated that you were trying to drag her off before she was ready.
i wasn't dragging her to be alone or anything. it was a more of a " come this way" drag.

then again i was hitting on her the hole night and was about 8 beers in so i was in the mood for some lovin.

plus we did stop for coffee and i sculled a beer and pissed on a side of a building.

maybe she just doesn't like to be touched cos i was messing with her in the car by poking her. but fvck it. if she can't get over the fact i was drunk in her car and using her has a driver then gtfo.

tho i did have fun when we was talking in the pub. was good. i guess i don't talk to girls like that often. so
 

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Packers2010 said:
i wasn't dragging her to be alone or anything. it was a more of a " come this way" drag.

then again i was hitting on her the hole night and was about 8 beers in so i was in the mood for some lovin.

plus we did stop for coffee and i sculled a beer and pissed on a side of a building.

maybe she just doesn't like to be touched cos i was messing with her in the car by poking her. but fvck it. if she can't get over the fact i was drunk in her car and using her has a driver then gtfo.

tho i did have fun when we was talking in the pub. was good. i guess i don't talk to girls like that often. so
No offense, but it sounds like you were being kind of rude. Pulling on her hand, pissing on the side of a building, being a drunken slob while she is sober, using her for a ride, using her to practice your game....

I don't blame her for being annoyed with you.

If you are just friends, let it go and hopefully you'll remain friends.
 

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Packers2010 said:
I was out with a friend of my last night and i was getting drunk. she didn't want too. so everything was good when we was at the pub. but later when we was at the casion. so at the casino we was chilling n stuff. then when we was waling i grab her hand to pull her a long cos she was was taking to long. she pull away. at the time i thought nothing of it. and i still do now a day later. but i got a message today saying that she was upset with me. becuse she dosen't like public despelays of affection. i was like. lol your crazy.

i was just wondering if any of you have encounted this before? if so how would you deal with it?

(just to let you know. she is a friend so i'm just using her to practice my game. she wont do me cos she only dose one guy at a time witch she told me. so i don't care.)

she does not like you.... any negativity will only come when she is not attracted to you... we dont wana see it but its always there
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Actually, on the topic, I have a question. I was out with a girl the other day, first date, went to a carnival, asking questions, chatting and whatnot. We were holding hands there and a few kisses. Made out a little when we were in the parking lot at a bar later. Went into the bar and she was talking to all kinds of dudes in front of me, prolly trying to see how I acted. I played it cool. Anyways she was not game for kissing at the bar and said it was cuz she didn't like PDA. I think a friend of another dude she was talking to worked there so I'm guessing maybe she was hiding the fact she was out with me. I railed her out that night. What might be your thoughts?
 

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Echoes said:
No offense, but it sounds like you were being kind of rude. Pulling on her hand, pissing on the side of a building, being a drunken slob while she is sober, using her for a ride, using her to practice your game....

I don't blame her for being annoyed with you.

If you are just friends, let it go and hopefully you'll remain friends.

to be honest man it's semi true.

i was going to the casino with a different bunch of friends. and she doesn't go out often so i was surprised when we ask to come with.

she told me that she was going to say lets go to the cas. so i guess she just wanted to get her gambol on.

sure i was rude. 8 beers in i can be a total jerk. but tbh i don't care. i took a shot and it failed. plus i did defo apologize more then once. but she is prob over reacting. a little.


shes not THAT pissed off that we wont be friends again. come on. she CHOSE to be sober tho. i offered to have a drink and she didn't. i will get her to come out again don't worry. will just be us tho.

i guess she sin't the girl i want when i think about it. i mean she is SO aint party. i'm 21. I'm going to get my drink on NOW! cos i know when i am 30 it's game over.


@ DonGorgon

yeah i know she doesn't like me. pretty much fooking with her cos i don't have any girls lined up right now. i just trying out a few things. obvs going to stop now. well maybe tone it down.

she has some guy. she told me that night that she only dose one guy at a time so she knows who the father is if she gets prego. so i took that as a " not right now".

but whatever. i can do better then her. i just need to work on myself harder. stop being a d!ck like above. and get someone better.
 
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