"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Girl was too young, had to break it to her

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Recently got back in touch with one of my old friends' little sisters. I'm nineteen, she's fifteen. We IMed for a tad, mostly flirtatious and light fluff. Exchanged numbers really quickly and told her to come in to where I work (movie theatre) this weekend. etc etc, her interest level was very high (prob for obvious reasons).
So I saw her after literally years (maybe 6-7 years) and we talked, caught up, and I just knew I had to bring up the age gap issue. In Canada, the age of consent is 16. I told her the age gap isn't the thing, it's that she's just started highschool and I'm in college. I also told her how it'd be illegal. She had no idea it'd be illegal. I told her dating would be legal, but anything more - touching etc - would be illegal and 'technically' rape. I told her she's technically a minor and im an adult so yeah, she understood it was a bit of an obstacle.
I had to be noble and bring it up before we went further (it was clear that we were interested in going further). The age gap is definitely a sticking point for me, and dating a girl in grade 9 is just a tad weird. I told her I want to let her do the whole highschool thing and have fun, we ended it on that note. Told her we'd talk tonight, and told her it's not the age gap or that she's too young or anything, it's that we're in different places right now.

Ever had to do something like this? I couldn't bring myself to fool around or even date this girl because honestly it's not something I'm comfortable with doing, so I needed to tell her so I wouldn't be leading her on. That type of thing.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Yeah dude, I know what you mean. I'm 19, and at least two 16 (barely) year old girls from my high school want my ****. It's tempting at times, but you can't go there...for obvious reason.s
 

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Yeah, when this girl's of legal age (16 where I live), then maybe. But actually dating would still be weird for me cause she's still a young'un. I think I'd be fine with a 16 y.o FB. :p haha
honestly though my conscience just wouldn't allow me to go through with this. Told her we should put things on pause. Such is life
 

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haha I just looked it up. More than half the states in the US have 16 as the age of consent, but in Wisconsin it's 18. Dammit :down:
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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AOC is 16 here. Snagging pelt that young is not easy considering they are extremely immature and under the roof of parents etc. It doesn't matter how flirty they get ... (I substitute taught my school at 18... I was beating them off with a stick. Getting shot by the father or fired would suck.)

I think the OP should just wait a year. She isn't going anywhere :crackup: trust me.
 

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I obviously am gonna wait. I told he we're in two different places and we should put things on pause. i also brought up how itd be funky for me, a 19 year old dude, to have done stuff with a 15 year old girl. she knew exactly what i meant and we agreed on waiting or whatnot.
Anyone else ever have a bootycall on a timer? haha just kidding
honestly though I dunno how I'd feel about dating a 16 year old next year, I'd prob be fine with her being a FWB/FB as it's kinda interesting but not sure how I'd feel about taking it further into relationship lane. She's still young, even though we could legally bonk.

Edit: i just realized I already said the above earlier. Oh well.
I've known this girl as a kid cause she was my best friend's lil sister. Then I moved and they moved a couple years after me. Now me and the guy don't talk and I haven't seen her since me and him were friends in our old town.
And I already know her parents love me. Her mom loved me since I was a little squirt. I'm the guy she'd tell her daughter to go out with (if we were closer to each other's age lol) cause I'm a 'nice boy'. That type of thing, lmao.
 

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MisterMcGee said:
i also brought up how itd be funky for me, a 19 year old dude, to have done stuff with a 15 year old girl.
Never say that **** again. lol.

Girls say 'I understand' but they so don't give a ****. They want you badly and reminding them of their age over and over not only bums them out it hurts your image. Like someone else says, for every guy who won't 1,000,000 will .

For god's sake she's only a few years younger than you. Wait until you're in your 20's to start feeling weird about this ****. :cuss: Dumbass.
 

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She's 15 in 2 months and I'm 20 in around 6 months. if i find it's weird, im gonna tell the girl. jesus, the most slimey and forward thing to do (fvck a child) isn't the "DJ" thing to do. I have morals and im sticking to them. if you'd do it, power to you, go ahead. I dont really care what you'd do, though.
 

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MisterMcGee said:
She's 15 in 2 months and I'm 20 in around 6 months. if i find it's weird, im gonna tell the girl. jesus, the most slimey and forward thing to do (fvck a child) isn't the "DJ" thing to do. I have morals and im sticking to them. if you'd do it, power to you, go ahead. I dont really care what you'd do, though.
do some reading on Friedrich Nietzsche and find out what he had to say about morals when it came to sex. ;)

like that old school saying goes: "if she's old enough to get me horny, then she is also old enough to get me off"

but then again being 15 with 20 is legal where i live. i dont know about you
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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It actually isn't legal in los angeles. It's legal nowhere in the US.

And I don't care if you're using "if she makes me horny, its fine to fvck her" as your excuse to **** a minor, you're just giving pedophiles a free ticket.
 

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It actually isn't legal in los angeles. It's legal nowhere in the US.

And I don't care if you're using "if she makes me horny, its fine to fvck her" as your excuse to **** a minor, you're just giving pedophiles a free ticket.
I'm not really from L.A.

Being 20 and banging a 15 year old is legal where I am. They just changed the law here this year.

It used to be much worse.

You could be 50 years old and you could bang anyone over 14 and it was legal.

Most States are 16+ (except Cali, NY and a few others)

But even then you have a 3 or 4 year bracket. If she is 15 and you are 18 for example, you can hit it.

Any bigger than that it is called statutory rape.

I don't like women under 30 anyway, the sex with young girls sucks, but some guys like banging 18 year old girls for variety.
 

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I just saw you're from Canada.

Yes, it is legal to fvck a 15 year old if you are 20 in Canada.

Minimum age is 16+, BUT there's a 5 year bracket which over-rules that. So if you are 20, the lowest you can dip is 15.

Now you can go back and hit it, lol.
 

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This is funny to me. This shows just how much the law has to do with our moral compasses. We don't even realize it, but the law can make us feel like we have these deeply held values; but its really just the fact that you don't want to go to jail and get raped by a big dude.

I have had the same "moral" struggle not to bang girls under age, but in America, the legal age is 18. I am 20 now and decided not to go for this girl that was just turning 17 at work that was really hot and giving me IOIs. I felt inside like it was wrong for me to do, but we have a Canadian here that is having the same moral struggle over fuvking a 15 year old.

LMAO. Everything is relative. I bet if the OP was in my situation he would fuvk the girl at my work in a heartbeat and feel no regret whatsoever.
 

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This is funny to me. This shows just how much the law has to do with our moral compasses. We don't even realize it, but the law can make us feel like we have these deeply held values; but its really just the fact that you don't want to go to jail and get raped by a big dude.

I have had the same "moral" struggle not to bang girls under age, but in America, the legal age is 18. I am 20 now and decided not to go for this girl that was just turning 17 at work that was really hot and giving me IOIs. I felt inside like it was wrong for me to do, but we have a Canadian here that is having the same moral struggle over fuvking a 15 year old.

LMAO. Everything is relative. I bet if the OP was in my situation he would fuvk the girl at my work in a heartbeat and feel no regret whatsoever.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Metaphysical said:
I just saw you're from Canada.

Yes, it is legal to fvck a 15 year old if you are 20 in Canada.

Minimum age is 16+, BUT there's a 5 year bracket which over-rules that. So if you are 20, the lowest you can dip is 15.

Now you can go back and hit it, lol.
I haven't seen any information about this 5 year bracket (ive even read the law sections on the official canadian website). Where did you find this out?

I was never was aware that there was a 5 year bracket that allowed an underage girl to bonk an adult guy as long as they're within 5 years from each other.
 
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I'm glad you have a little more self control than me. I've been with way too many younger girls. They've only been no more than 3 years or or so younger than me, but I'm still 19 none the less and it's way illegal here. It sucks, it's really something I need to stop doing. I'm going to get myself into trouble one day.
 

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17 here in Louisiana.

Ahhh...Jail bait. Thou art a heartless biatch. It is tempting, but it ain't worth it. Just keep in touch with them and eventually they'll turn whatever age is legal in your parts.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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