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Girl wants to maintain control, how do i keep her intereste din out date to vegas?

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I have read the DJ bible and all the tips, and it is important to mantain control. And I do. But this girl is a control freak as well. I ask her "This weekend, I'm coming with you to pheonix" and she gets so angry she tells her friends she wants to sock me in the face. is this a normal reaction (of course she is just joking about it). She wants guys to bow down to her, but I wont do that. Any suggestions? WHat can I do to win her over more (she is a party girl... loves getting drunk and on a hotness scale... shes a 10)
So what is the key to getting her? We have a date scheduled on Feburary 24-27 to vegas but how do i keep her interested. Every guy in the school is after her. And how do I eliminate her BF? I know this isn't the high school forum but it gets so much more traffic i thought i'd give it a shot. And the most important thing... she neevr gives straight answers... it's always "I'll think about it." No matter WHAT the question. How can i get an answer from her. I have tried the "it's either a yes or a no, you have ten minutes" but no dice. I'm at the end of my rope. Now what?
 

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I barely got a word of what you said. What I got though, is that she's going on a Vegas date with you for three days when she HAS A BOYFRIEND. In other words, she's a partier, a drunk, and a ho. Why do you even want her?

Oh, is your username related to the SNES game Secret of Mana? I love that game.
 

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What control and in what sense? You guys have NO relationship. In fact not only do you have no relationship, she has a relationship with someone else.

Control in most cases means control over yourself. From what you have described, she thinks very little of you. You can't control someone who thinks she has more value then you. First of all you need to control yourself so you aren't exuding neediness.

Kaine
 

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Originally posted by Kaine
What control and in what sense? You guys have NO relationship. In fact not only do you have no relationship, she has a relationship with someone else.
I dont get what are you expecting from this girl either.


Beside, its obvious here that even if you date this girl she has much more control than you. She knows how to play the game much better than you. You should be the one not giving straight answers, and making her wonder about your intentions. Instead she does this perfectly to you, and here you are wondering.

We have the DJ bible, girls have Cosmopolitan and other girl magazines that teach them this kind of stuff and games you know..
 

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Originally posted by BorealFace
And the most important thing... she neevr gives straight answers... it's always "I'll think about it." No matter WHAT the question. How can i get an answer from her. I have tried the "it's either a yes or a no, you have ten minutes" but no dice. I'm at the end of my rope. Now what?
Tell me, did she give you an "I'll think about it" for the Vegas trip? If so, you may not have a date after all. :p
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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First of all you need to control yourself so you aren't exuding neediness.

Exactly. Then, once you've done that, turn up the heat. I would take her self esteem, ram it into the floor and stomp on it. Maybe then, I'll permit her to chat with me. Know what I'm saying?

Every guy in the school is after her.

That means you should be the guy yawning and walking away from her.

She wants guys to bow down to her, but I wont do that.

Damn right you won't!!
 
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gixxer's advice is good.

Don't expect much from this girl. She just isn't mature enough to be worth very much to you. You might play every card just right for the next 2 weeks, get her to leave her boyfriend for you, but as a person what does she have to offer you?

*She fancies herself
*She's disrespectful to you
*She's unfaithful

So before you go any further, weigh stuff up. There's a chance that if you got her, she might change, but then again she might not. So make sure you can walk if she goes for you but wants to keep the lousy attitude.

As far from eliminating her BF - if you've got her to go on a date with you for 3 days, she must be into you at least on one level.

If you stay self-assured and show her a great time throughout, turn her on, you two should have fun :D - take it from there.

Advice: if you're still studying, keep that as you're priority. No point in screwing your life up over some chick who you probably won't remember in 5 years!

All the best mate.
 

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BorealFace,

Why did you name yourself after the pallette swap of Tropicallo?
But to continue, yea...

So you've tried the yes or no in ten minutes and didn't get a response? Know what that means?(hint: its not yes)

Anyway there, skipper, it seems like you are after this girl because "every guy in the school is after her". That is a terrible motivation for the following reasons:

1. She probably knows this and is a BIG attention whoare! Like, huge! She has the mentality that she can take any guy she wants, and will only take the best. And since every guy seems to be after her, shes right. You're not the best. That's why shes not taking you.

2. Does this girl have anything to offer you besides bragging rights? Sex? My experiences with attention whoares is that they SUCK in bed. Theyre so used to getting attention and stuff that they don't work on the fundamentals of sex. They take the orgasm but don't work hard to give their guys one back. That's just wrong.

3. That mentality, true or not, will affect the way YOU act around her. You've just put her up on a pedistal. You will now seem like a stupid desperate jerk every time you talk to her.

You gotta work on your confidence before you start trying to bag any more girls.
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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yup my name is from the SNES game SOM. I love SOM 2 more though. But yeah she is a HO. But a very hot ho. Nonetheless there is another girl i'm working on anyway if this doesn't turn out right
 

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Originally posted by BorealFace
I have read the DJ bible and all the tips, and it is important to mantain control. And I do. But this girl is a control freak as well. I ask her "This weekend, I'm coming with you to pheonix" and she gets so angry she tells her friends she wants to sock me in the face. is this a normal reaction (of course she is just joking about it). She wants guys to bow down to her, but I wont do that. Any suggestions? WHat can I do to win her over more (she is a party girl... loves getting drunk and on a hotness scale... shes a 10)
So what is the key to getting her? We have a date scheduled on Feburary 24-27 to vegas but how do i keep her interested. Every guy in the school is after her. And how do I eliminate her BF? I know this isn't the high school forum but it gets so much more traffic i thought i'd give it a shot. And the most important thing... she neevr gives straight answers... it's always "I'll think about it." No matter WHAT the question. How can i get an answer from her. I have tried the "it's either a yes or a no, you have ten minutes" but no dice. I'm at the end of my rope. Now what?
This reminds me of Aws. Well, being it or not, why do you want this girl?

This girl seems to be pretty self centered, already "commited", and she´s acting like a true b!tch ho.

Why all this drama?
 
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