"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Girl wants me to lend her $140

Vice

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Of course I'm not going to give it to her
But she keeps asking me, telling me the reason why I should give it to her is because we're friends
and she told me that she'll pay me back. Over several months.
Of course the answer is "no, I'm not your bank", but what would YOU guys tell her?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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No way, especially considering your only 17, at your age $140 is a good chunk of coin. People are not trust worthy at your age. Tell her to ask her parents.

Lending money is like giving it away. Your not likely to ever see it again. Or be prepared to lose a friendship over it.
 

Charm&Style

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MacAvoy said:
No way, especially considering your only 17, at your age $140 is a good chunk of coin. People are not trust worthy at your age. Tell her to ask her parents.
Yes, think about it. A 17 yr old girl comes up to YOU and not her parents, family, relatives, etc and asks you to loan her some money wouldn't you find her shady? I would.
 

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Better yet, tell her if she gives you a BJ everyday for a week, you'll lend her the money. Theres nothing like turning a women into a wh0re.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Why would you want to jeopardize a "friendship" by making one person indebted to the other?
 

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If she's that desperate for money and you have the extra lying about doing nothing. Be damned sure she signs something saying you have loaned this idiot so and so amount and she will owe you $___________ PLUS INTEREST ACRUABLE AT END OF TERM.

Tell her this is what friends who loan friends money do. If she squabbles the least bit she is not interested in your friendship.
 

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Karma, that´s weird, why would you want to do that for? Taking interest from friends, pals, folks you hang out with IMHO is rather jewish. But maybe it is common in the US?

Only lend money to friends if you are ready to actually give it to them as a gift. For yourself, write the money completely off as a gift and don´t ever mention it again by yourself.
Otherwise that friendship is likely to go down. Friendship and money should be kept apart anyway.

But this chick...? Couldn´t see any reason at all why you should give her that money.
 

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what would YOU guys tell her?

$10 per blowj0b, but only if she swallows. With hard work, she can make her money in less than a week.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Rudra said:
Taking interest from friends, pals, folks you hang out with IMHO is rather jewish.

Oops! Let's keep the racist remarks to a minimum.
 

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Vice said:
"no, I'm not your bank"
Just that. If she asks again, tell her to bother some one else or 15 blow jobs on demand, any time, any place, regardless of relationship situation. And she swallows.

And he's 17, at best, his job will get him $20-45 in 2 hours. Get real escaleraroyal.
 

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i have said this before ... so here i go again

any time i loan money to family and friends, they rarely feel the need to pay it back. i only do it when i have extra and i do not need it back because they may never pay it back.

lending big bucks to a friend that never has it to pay it back, can end your friendship.

karma is right about getting things in writing if you want it back.
there are websites just for this.
search the site engine here for lending money... you will find the old threads.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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penkitten said:
i have said this before ... so here i go again

any time i loan money to family and friends, they rarely feel the need to pay it back. i only do it when i have extra and i do not need it back because they may never pay it back.

lending big bucks to a friend that never has it to pay it back, can end your friendship.

karma is right about getting things in writing if you want it back.
there are websites just for this.
search the site engine here for lending money... you will find the old threads.
Personally, I never lend money which I can't afford to give away.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Personally, I never lend money which I can't afford to give away.
me either... i look at it like a person standing in the street with a bucket collecting for some charity. do i have it to give and never see again?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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you shouldn't lend money to friends or family members. If they're creditworthy, they should be able to get it from someone unrelated, who won't be risking a friendship.
 

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MacAvoy said:
Better yet, tell her if she gives you a BJ everyday for a week, you'll lend her the money. Theres nothing like turning a women into a wh0re.
Agreed.

Occassionally, I smoke weed and if I have some and my girlfriend doesn't. I'll tell her to suck my d!ck untill I cvm if she wan'ts to smoke a joint with me :crackup: ... She does it too.
 

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Rudra said:
Karma, that´s weird, why would you want to do that for? Taking interest from friends, pals, folks you hang out with IMHO is rather jewish. But maybe it is common in the US?

Only lend money to friends if you are ready to actually give it to them as a gift. For yourself, write the money completely off as a gift and don´t ever mention it again by yourself.
Otherwise that friendship is likely to go down. Friendship and money should be kept apart anyway.

But this chick...? Couldn´t see any reason at all why you should give her that money.
I don't work for free. Perhaps that's how you do out of the states but I make money to spend on me and my family not friends who try to guilt me out of money. And it's not "jewing" them about borrowing money, it's about making a stand on the value of your money.
 

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Vice said:
Of course the answer is "no, I'm not your bank", but what would YOU guys tell her?
"$140 ought to get me five cסck massages at the very least."
 

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escaleraroyal said:
140 is like 2 hours of work..are u nuts.
I think he means 140 dollars. Are you thinking 140 pesos?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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