Oh, and what would my problem be?hope7 said:it looks like we know what your problem is, and we're gonna fix it!
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Oh, and what would my problem be?hope7 said:it looks like we know what your problem is, and we're gonna fix it!
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
There aren't any "topics" that create attraction.Kal said:then tell me what sorts of topics create attraction.
The fact that she didn't want to leave doesn't matter,you should have cut it off anyway. That way she wouldn't be able to wait to see you the next time.Kal said:yeah it was kind of long. However I set up a shorter date with this girl a week or 2 before (we could have only hung out for 2 hours or so) and she rejected the idea because it wasn't long enough and re-scheduled for a day she could have hung out longer. And besides that, what we did just took a lot of time. Went skating for 2 hours, walked around for a bit, grabbed dinner, and watched part of a hockey game. I don't disagree with you that it was too long, but she didn't want to leave.
Well this is good,but doesn't negate anything previously said.Kal said:Anyways I might have been too hasty to say this girl has lost all interest. I texted her yesterday to cancel for today and she said she wanted to do
something this week. I suggested dinner and movie at my place which there was no objections to. We just need to plan when and where to meet since she's never been to my place (and she doesn't know my part if the city).
I had a feeling this would happen when reading through this thread. A lot of guys on this forum are way too fast to NEXT a girl. Although "I will call you" is often bad and is her way of brushing you off, it doesn't always mean that it is. What to do in these circumstances is to give time to see if she does call, and if she doesn't then to quick text like you did here.Kal said:Anyways I might have been too hasty to say this girl has lost all interest. I texted her yesterday to cancel for today and she said she wanted to do
something this week. I suggested dinner and movie at my place which there was no objections to. We just need to plan when and where to meet since she's never been to my place (and she doesn't know my part if the city).
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, Tesl, slow down there big boy. The focus on any date should be the fun that you are having and if there is any interest in the woman she will mirror your level of enjoyment. Very rarely do I ever spend time with a woman where I have fun and she does not. If that happens forget the chick.Forty0ztoFreedom said:He should focus on HER having fun? Is this not supplication? I think this whole community is one giant paradox.
Heh, was suprised to see this. I don't think there is a paradox here, I'm not saying "make sure she has fun, at your own expense without having fun yourself". If you don't enjoy the date then she obviously wont either - I'm not denying this at all.lifeislearning said:Forty your doubt is just. Paradox averted. Lets be a little more careful with the advice we share *cough* Tesl *cough* :trouble: