"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Girl stopped calling me back...Advice?

Mang22

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So I met this really cute girl two Fridays ago at a bar. I was with a couple friends and one of my friends knew her friend and we were all chillin all night having a good time. We all left the bar and went to our cars. I walked over to the girl before she got in her car and said something like "tonight was a lot of fun, is there a number I can reach you at in case I want to hang out with you again sometime?" She said sure and gave me her number which I called so she had it in her phone then she gave me a hug and we left.

Later that night at about 4 in the morning I got a text from her that said "Tonight was fun, we should definately do it again sometime. Call me." I thought sweet I got this. So I called her on Monday afternoon and left a message. She called me back a few hours later but I didn't hear my phone and she left me a message. I left her a text that night saying "too bad we missed each other today, lets try again soon." So I called her back on Wednesday and left a message. That was last Wednesday and she hasn't called or texted back. I tried calling her again yesterday (Wednesday, a week since my last call) and no answer and no call back.

What do you guys think the deal is? What could have changed in the matter of just a few days. I know she has school and a job but she just stop calling back out of nowhere. Should I just keep tryin to call her every few days or so to remind her I'm still alive and until I finally get her on the phone, should I leave her a message or should I text her something like "are you playing hard to get already" or none of the above. I realize that i could just Next her, but I'm not ready to give up on this one yet and was hoping for some good advice. Thanks
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Don't write any **** about playing hard to get etc. The key here is to act unaffected. An emotional reaction to her not calling back is the worst possible thing.

Pretend that none of this is happening. Then, next time you're out at a bar, call her up and ask her to drop by. THis is far less needy, you're just being a cool guy whose having fun and wants to share his fun with a cool girl.

Don't do the weekday "playing hard to get? hehe" calls etc..

hope this helps!
 

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Jesus, man. You practically beat this girl to death with the 3 day rule.

I keep telling you guys it's a dying trick....
 

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LJC said:
Jesus, man. You practically beat this girl to death with the 3 day rule.

I keep telling you guys it's a dying trick....

It wasn't a trick, it was just most convenient for me to call her back on Monday.

Thanks for the advice Spitkicker. I'll just play it cool and act unnaftected by her not calling me back and not even mention it to her. I'll try callin again this weekend while I'm out and tell her to stop by. If she doesnt pick up I'll try again next weekend. It's not like she told me to fvck off so I'll remain persistant, and I see no reason why she would lose interest all of a sudden.
 

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Mang22 said:
It wasn't a trick, it was just most convenient for me to call her back on Monday.
That's not the point. The point is that women are going to see it that way because more and more of them are fully aware of it. I hear them talking about it all of the time. It's like a joke to them.


I see no reason why she would lose interest all of a sudden.

Next time you get a number, just give this one or two tries: find 3 minutes to call her within a day or two. I bet you take more time than that taking a sh-t. All you have to do is plan a day to get together. It could be a week from then, doesn't matter. Don't worry about planning something in particular. Just get a day. Then tell her you'll call her back with plans. Call back in another day or two with whatever you decide to do. 5 minutes tops. Then go from there. If at that point you go 3 days, four days, a week without talking, no big deal. But up front it's no good. Nobody's that busy.

I haven't had women "dissapear" on me since I started doing this.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Never try to analyse or understand women's logic, why they don't call, why they go from hot to cold etc, because it'll just make you paranoid. Basically, she has a choice - to call you back or not to. If she's interested, she will call/txt you back. It's really that simple!

If you start calling or texting her without a reply you will start to look desperate, and at best you'll become her easy option, her back up plan for a rainy day.

Instead, YOU want to give HER an opportunity and if she doesn't take it, she misses out! The best way to get this message across is to stop communicating until she starts responding.
 

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Go get some other numbers and focus on those chicks. If this one calls you back then she is genuinely interested.
 

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Don't be one of those desperate chumps who keeps calling her and texting her, pretending to be cool or to see how she's doing. Its obvious youre into her and she will interpret every call or text without her reply as:

"why aren't you replying? please contact me! I'm waiting around for you to get back to me because I have nothing better to do."
 
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