"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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girl slept with me in camper..

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alright ive been exploring the differnt girls that attract to me and this one seems pretty interested, after a few dates/hang outs she told me she was going to stay where i was going to stay that night which was at a friends house
my friend crashes and me and her crash in the camper out back
i thought it was a little to early to pull anything likes a kiss, but give a date or 2 more and possibly it could have been. it was a fun night we basically just wrestled around stealing the blankets from eachother

now the question i have, i have 1 class a day with this girl and we always talk (good or bad?) and i know in most of the posts they say to be unavailble for periods of times like 2-4 days then hang out, should this be fine? since we are only in highschool
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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A. It's never too early to kiss. The longer you take the more you seem like a chickensh*t and the less likely you are to get some.

B. Always talking shows shes interested. However, push/pull my friend. I can't stress this enough. Don't make it a pattern (1 push 1 pull) but rather mix it up (1 push, 1 pull, 2 push, 1 pull, 1 push, 2 pull) so as to keep her on her heels. Keep her guessing.

C. "Since we are only in highschool" means nothing. Of course you're going to see her every day, but by using the push/pull deal you'll eliminate the need to be "unavailable" so to speak. However, you should know full well that hanging out with this girl EVERY weekend isn't the greatest idea. If you're free, hang out with her. If you've got some plans, tell her you're busy. I HATE seeing my friends cancel their plans to hang out with some girl. It never got them anywhere.
 

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a. ok sounds good
b. im kind of confused on the push pull, push pull on what exactly?
c. but i only say "since we are in highschool" opposed to other threads for older men in the fourms. And yes ive learned not to hang out 24/7 with girls nor every weekend, and not to cancel seeing friends for girls, bad mistake.
 

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Push/pull is this.

One day you're flirting with her, kino, C&F, all that jazz. Thats pushing.

Pulling is sort of a "I don't care" attitude. You don't really flirt, maybe a little. You keep the kino limited and you don't really pay much attention to her. It gives her the "Whoa, why isn't he flirting with me...what'd I do? I need to get his attention" type attitude.

It keeps her guessing.
 

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k just checking, had that sorta in mind
sounds good
ill trrrryy that =]
thanks and ill keep it posted
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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eh thats what i was thinkin too, but it all means the same haha
i ignored her today for the most part and she texts me and says she wishes we would have hung out today (because her parents wont let her hang out on weekdays cuz of her grades) and ya
then friday she said movies and ice cream
from what ive seen that means good am i right? lol
 

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HINT

She is entertaining the idea of enjoying intercourse with you at a later point in time. :D
 

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Wow, you f*cking c*nt... why didn't you f*ck her? Completely missed chance...
 

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sh4rk b1t3 said:
Wow, you f*cking c*nt... why didn't you f*ck her? Completely missed chance...
i pretty much noticed that haha
but today, im not sure what the relationship is but at lunch (we dont sit or hang out together) but she was with this other dude and they seemed kinda playish
cant tell if its a flirt play or a friend play i have no clue
but it was enough to feel uncomfortable around cuz i was right next to em
 

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dude156 said:
i pretty much noticed that haha
but today, im not sure what the relationship is but at lunch (we dont sit or hang out together) but she was with this other dude and they seemed kinda playish
cant tell if its a flirt play or a friend play i have no clue
but it was enough to feel uncomfortable around cuz i was right next to em
again today after school, we were walking towards the parking lot and that kid comes over and they were all giddish again and she gave him hugs and stuff
i feel pretty much uncomfortable when hes around
but he introduced him self to me, so hes not a **** or anything but
its just like eh another guy
and he wrapped his arms around her and stuff from behind
but today in class she was all trying to sit next to me and stufff
so eh confusing dono what i should do
i invited her to come to the jv/freshman game with me tonight but she said her step mom isnt home to ask if she can so ya
any advice? to become the better guy?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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eh thanks for myspace
found out the dude is in a relationship with someone else
whew
w000t
 

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oakraiderz tip #328- whenever you wrestle with a girl...youre suppose to kiss her
 

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oakraiderz2 said:
oakraiderz tip #328- whenever you wrestle with a girl...youre suppose to kiss her
i plan on it next time
and i know i made the mistake of not doing so before =/
 

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she told you her parents weren't home to ask? so why didnt you tell her your coming over to watch a movie that night instead.
 

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eminence said:
she told you her parents weren't home to ask? so why didnt you tell her your coming over to watch a movie that night instead.
i didnt think of that one :cry:
it was day time tho
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Docs said:
And why is this bad? You could go out for a walk, go on a mini date, COME BACK TO YOUR PAD after for the movie...?
i dono what time her mom came back so i didnt bother, i felt like i would be pushing it on her too much if i kept bugging her to go?
 

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Skilla_Staz said:
Push/pull is this.

One day you're flirting with her, kino, C&F, all that jazz. Thats pushing.

Pulling is sort of a "I don't care" attitude. You don't really flirt, maybe a little. You keep the kino limited and you don't really pay much attention to her. It gives her the "Whoa, why isn't he flirting with me...what'd I do? I need to get his attention" type attitude.

It keeps her guessing.
Just to clear it up for me....does this mean be cold to her?, then warm again? like giving her the gift of missing you?
 

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Don't worry about following rules about being unavailable. If you've got your **** together you're fine and you can break the rules. If you're not that attractive then little details like being hard to get for a few days won't matter.
 

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if she's happy to sleep in a trailer with you, she wants to know when youre gonna start sticking your penis in her vagina.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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