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TheManiac

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hey all, I doubt any of you remember me, about a year or so back I was really into sosuave and would come here at least once a day to read posts, though I rarely posted.

Ive forgotten alot of the situation specific knowledge these days however and am lookin for some advice.

This girl who I met like 3 weeks ago had EXTREMELY high IL, i mean she took my cell phone and put her name and # in, we were at this political science fair thing for extra credit (im in college) and so we bailed on the second half of that and went to a cafe for a while, after that day i didnt call her all week until the next weekend, and by then she was asking my friend about me and telling him to please have me call her, etc.
I finally did friday and we played frizbee and ate on campus (didnt spend any money and had alot of fun)

this is where the problem starts, she asked if i would call her tommorow or should she just keep her plans, she had mentioned partying and i said maybe we could party some saturday night.
My dumb ass fell asleep saturday at 7 and didnt wake up till right before midnight, I called her and i got no answer so i went out w/ my boys, sunday she IMs me and I said i fell asleep, by the time i called her she was gone, she said she was so drunk she wouldnt have known if i was there or not. nice.

We make plans to go to dinner that night and then she cancels on my half an hour beforehand, she offers to reschedule for monday and i said sometime in the week but not mon, (I already had plans)

So tuesday comes around, I call her and make a date for thursday (I was just gonna ask her out right then but something came up w/ a friend that was more important)

She IMs me wednesday, says shes bored and i invite her up to my dorm and she shows EXTREMELY high IL again like out of nowhere, i couldnt get that girl off of me if id wanted to!

this morning (thursday) i asked her if we were still on for tonight and she said yeah we were.

and so the time comes for us to get ready and she was asleep, I get ready, call her (her voicemail was full, so i couldnt leave a message) shes still asleep, I just chill at my computer lookin at her away message for it to go down or say "gettin ready" or something like that (shes a very AIM centric girl, and EVERYTHING she does she puts in her away message.)

about a half hour goes by and there was another function i could go to that i was gonna pass up for the date, so i decided to go to that and had alot of fun w/ my friends.

I just dont understand her behavior at all, she shows no hesitancy to go hang out w/ me or spend time w/ me, she comes up to my room and rides me till im raw, then she cant be bothered to wake up at 6 oclock in the afternoon to go to dinner with me.


I really need some advice on this one guys.

I wanna keep her around for the amazing sex, (Did i mention that she is studying to be a sexologist?)
but i have NO IDEA what game she is playin.:(
 

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GaryNas

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So it's ok for you to fall asleep, but not her??
 
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Seems like both of you have a problem staying awake - I understand the colllege pressures but why don't you both take some 'no-doze'!
 

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Originally posted by TheManiac
This girl who I met like 3 weeks ago had EXTREMELY high IL, i mean she took my cell phone and put her name and # in, we were at this political science fair thing for extra credit (im in college) and so we bailed on the second half of that and went to a cafe for a while, after that day i didnt call her all week until the next weekend, and by then she was asking my friend about me and telling him to please have me call her, etc.
for those who are wondering and trying to trick yourself into thinking a chick is interested in you ^^^this^^^ is high IL. He's right.

anyways this story absolutly wreaks of coquettetry, hot/cold, etc., etc. etc.

she probably figures that games are okay when you messed up on the call that nite. perhaps she's recoiling from the thought that you might not be very interested and ensuring that you stay interested. (by the way the easiest way to judge something is by it's outcome. in this case you're sitting here wondering wtf is going on and i guarantee it's not a fvckin accident on her part.)

you're a game player mayne. you know how to play games act important and all da sh!t. you know how to do all that and yet it's still throwin ya for a loop when she shows it back to you.

unless you've fvcked something up and been a symp i see no reason why she doesn't have HIGH IL so high in fact that she's trying to maintain that IL by "having you discover a full voicemail box", "being so drunk she doesn't remember blah blah blah", and over all just being hot/cold(the absolute best way to put somebody in a relationship on the defensive and win the upper hand).

you need to just chill. let what will be be and don't stress.

i will mention one other thing. this is a TEST. an oft failed test. if she sees your actions as a possible loss of IL and trys to gain your IL back by playin games of her own and you recoil wondering wtf happened than you also reveal that what you were doing was all for show. it's best to be real @ all times. perhaps you tried to play a little gameage, perhaps she just thought you did...either way she's gunna find out.

SHE WANTS YOUR MAN SIZED C0CK... she wanted it all along.... but if she sensed something shaky right now she's just buying insurance.

-J
 

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thanks for the info ppl, yeah im pretty sure shes testing me and i know that, i just cant remember what IM supposed to do, lol

yah mainly what happened w/ the sosuave is i incorporated the main parts of it into my personality and then once you get the mental mindset down, you dont really have to worry about every line you say etc because generally the DJ thing to say is what you naturally think of once you get the attitude down, im just not used to dealing w/ a DJ opposite of me i guess, most girls just dont play this **** w/ me, and when they try to i call them on her **** or cut back my IL and she cuts that **** or I just next her all together, the problem w/ this girl is she is so dynamic w/ it, if she were like cold like this and i couldnt get the time of day at all i would have nexted her already, but damnit i dont know what to do w/ her.

and yeah i know its sort of a double standard, but i feel bad about fallin asleep and I apologized for it too.

also, it wasnt for anything formal or official, it was just drinkin and mess, which she was gonna do anyways, and what i was gonna do anyways.

basically whenever I want to do something laid back and informal land just hang out or whatever, shes all for it, but anything like a "real" date, she dodges.

I shouldnt be complaining, shes saving me money, lol but I enjoy going out and this girl is cool.

Also for the high IL and my actions, I know im showin you guys how concerned i was about this and how much i wanted to be out there w/ her, but i mean from her eyes, she slept through our date, and i went out w/ other ppl anyways.

On her end shes not shaking me, at least im tryin to show that image.

Im tryin to maintain the image im interested, but i dont really need her all that much.

how do i get her to cut this **** and stop throwin me through this stuff yet still show im interested in her.

if i just stop callin shell figure shes nexted wont she?

like i said...im just not used to a girl playin games like these.
normally they get the impression first off that i wont tolerate them and if they try them they wont get a chance w/ me.

this girl tested me on it and its F*ckin w/ me:rolleyes:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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