"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Girl showed IOIs before - I didn't act on it

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VERY LONG story short:

-girl from my school initiated contact with me
-showed a ****load of IOIs
-i didn't act on them because i was a ***** back then
-she ignored me for about 6 months after that
-6 months later, i was sitting by myself and she sits next to me and acts like she never ignored me, in other words, acted like she used to when she first met me.

what caused her to act like this again? what should i do? is it possible for her to like me even after i didnt respond to all of her IOIs from 6 months ago and she ignored me after that?
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Next time she shows interest show a little back, but don't get all swept away right away. Keep doing what your doing, but be more responsive when she initiates contact. You still want to keep the ball in your court, so don't do any of the initiating but when she does it just be a little more responsive and start acting on it.
 

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iCatch said:
what caused her to act like this again? what should i do? is it possible for her to like me even after i didnt respond to all of her IOIs from 6 months ago and she ignored me after that?
sigh....

what caused her to act like this again?
WHO GIVES A F@#%@
what should i do?
well duh what do you think?
your third question?
how the f___ would we know? does it matter? NO! make your move and find out!

sorry for getting a little angry but that's the only way you'll learn brother, nothing personal. You really need to stop analyzing women like if they are some sort of engineering problem. In the game with women you have to unleash the weapons and those weapons are asking for their # or asking them out. Either of those 2 will answer all your questions.
 

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Scars said:
Next time she shows interest show a little back, but don't get all swept away right away. Keep doing what your doing, but be more responsive when she initiates contact. You still want to keep the ball in your court, so don't do any of the initiating but when she does it just be a little more responsive and start acting on it.
keep doing what i'm doing? i'm not even doing anything! i was just sitting by myself one day and she came up to me and acted like she didn't ignore me for 6 months.

why do you think all of a sudden she started to show interest again?
 

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Cause she's interested again. Who cares. It's not your BUSINESS how people's heads work and what phases they go through in life.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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iCatch said:
keep doing what i'm doing? i'm not even doing anything! i was just sitting by myself one day and she came up to me and acted like she didn't ignore me for 6 months.

why do you think all of a sudden she started to show interest again?
Keep doing what you're doing meaning keep ignoring her, don't initiate contact, let her do all the initiating. And listen buddy, just because she came up and talked to you after 6 months doesn't mean she is "interested" in you romantically, she could have just been being friendly. You need to calm down, or sadly you're setting yourself up for a horrible case of oneitis. Who cares why she talked to you again, all you know is that she did. Just take my advice and keep your cool.
 

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MisterMcGee said:
Cause she's interested again. Who cares. It's not your BUSINESS how people's heads work and what phases they go through in life.
is what the other guy said right? he said i shouldn't initiate contact until she does again, then show a little interest, or should i initiate this time?
 

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You need to relax and get your head straight. If that means not getting too excited over this one incident, then sure. Either way, you're zeroing in on this one incident and creating some sort of cold-case for it... when really this doesn't matter. Chill and smell the roses, and take charge once your head is in the place you want it to be.
 

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MisterMcGee said:
You need to relax and get your head straight. If that means not getting too excited over this one incident, then sure. Either way, you're zeroing in on this one incident and creating some sort of cold-case for it... when really this doesn't matter. Chill and smell the roses, and take charge once your head is in the place you want it to be.
this is great and all but i already know this. the problem is i don't have that much experience with girls so i need examples of the type of things i should be doing

"just do it" "just be more confident" etc

great advice and all, but sometimes people just need more specific things so they'll be more confident in what they're doing
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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LikeTheWind said:
Asking too many questions man, I know you're inexperienced, we've all been there. But you have to really get out there and actually MAKE A MOVE to figure out what to do, if you fail then who cares? its a part of life, we all fail sometimes, and its a good learning experience. You can't just keeping asking people for answers to all of your questions and for every single step-by-step word-for-word instructions, that also demonstrates low self-esteem and incompetence, which is bad, you need to be a competent person and a confident (vague term, I know) person to attract women.

Also, why does it matter why she is interested in you again? Just go for it, I don't give a **** why girls like me, as long as they do and I can capitalize on that interest. Don't be afraid to make a move. You said in your post that you didn't make a move back then because you were a "*****" back then (I can't see exactly what word you wrote), well are you still one? Or have you changed and are you now willing to make a move? Its up to you.
i am willing to make a move. like i said, im inexperienced so i don't know what the hell making a move is. is it touching? is it telling her i like her? is it talking to her more? what is it?

it's like telling a person that doesn't know how to fly a plane to "just do it. you gotta get experience man, just do it"

I AM INEXPERIENCED. I NEED GUIDELINES ON WHAT TO DO.

that's why i'm asking for some examples. i thought this forum was to give and get advice. if all the advice is "just do it" why not make sosuave.net nike.com?
 

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We are NOT going to play the voice in your head. You need to do some edumacation and some reading if you honestly don't know what "making a move" is. Take some initiative and stop being 100% dependent.
There's asking for help, and then asking for help when the type of help you need is posted everywhere already.
As lame as case-by-case advice giving is, this isn't even that. Your case is simply "im new", so you know what? Read the DJ bible, or some other crap. Even "wikihow" ffs, just have some initiative.
 

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bump for people that log on at this time might have better advice
 

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The advice you need is already here. Search for it and read it. You can do a lot of simple "tricks" (most you'll learn with basic social awareness and common sense) and so forth. Also, PUAs can help you get this girl, but temporarily, and you'll be back here for every girl you want to win over. Is that what you want?
Do you want us to feed you? Or do you want a hunting rifle so you can feed yourself?

The best advice anyone will give you: get into a better and less outcome-dependant mindset. It's a journey that you should definitely start now
 
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