"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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girl secret: pretending to be weaker then they actually are!

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In a conversation with one of my female friends, she said this:

A girl know that she can get more done by a man, if she pretends to be weaker then she actually is!

" My first question to myself was " Why do they get to us in such a way, and whey do we always want to help them "

This is why it's so important to be a man, and don't give a fcvk sometimes about her problems. Talk to her about it, listen to her.. but whatever you do, DO NOT HELP HER, OR GIVE ADVICE! IT NEVER GOES UNPUNISHED!

I learned this the hard way, but im glad i did..
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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GIRL SECRET:
Most of them take smelly ass dumps. That's because of all the crap they eat and drink like Lattes, exotic drinks containing various grasses, as well as the latest diet where all you eat is mango.
 

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Well no crap a submissive one is in control. The domineering one requires someone submissive in order to be dominant! If someone isn't going to act submissive or equal then there is equal control or the perceived notion of it.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I don't believe that the submissive one is in control, but the dominating one could act as if they are weak so to be in control. And i do believe that you have to be a good guy, not nice!.. but don't try to solve their ****ty problems.


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Don't really believe that there is one dominant and one submissive.. I think more in terms of roles. That both gender fulfills their role, The man being Masculine and Woman Faminine.

And yes the woman should be submissive and the man dominating!

Does anyone think that a woman who has always been dominating (has more masculine personality) can become submissive, because it's in their nature?
 

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Faca you're been fooled by women. First of all you contradict yourself by saying that you don't believe that there is one dominant and one submissive, then you say the woman should be submissive and men dominating, I don't know how you didn't see this!

Secondly, you're failing to see just like most people, how the feminine role is very minor, and they don't do half the work as you donkeys do, whether it be in marriage, or seduction etc...

Finally, I believe that we should have masculine women, because that's the only type of woman that I respect most. In fact, I'm more attracted to masculine women, since I can like them for more than their body.
 

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by masculine women. do you mean tomboys? tomboys rock. that, treat me like the princess i am, is garbage. there is nothing more boring than a woman who use the I word to describe everything.

it's just a game women and guys play when it comes to the "you do it better than me tactic". i always ask my woman if she will microwave me up a pizzapop, because she is better at it than me. she does the same thing. it's not meant to really be taking seriously
 

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Coppergoat, you're right, i do contradict myself.. i'll explain!

It's never 100% masculine the one and the other 100% feminime.. Some man are more feminime and, while some woman can be masculine. And i believe that when a man is really masculine, let's say 90% masculine (just to explain).. that he is strongly attracted to a more feminime woman. But when a man is less masculine, for example 10%.. then he'll be attracted more to masculine woman. But it's just in our nature to be masculine, only a couple of decades of social programming have changed this.

The one needs the other, a relationship where both are really feminime or masculine could never work. What if both were really masculine.. then you'd have a lot of fighting about who takes the really important decisions. And i really believe that most relationship problems arise because of this.

Just think about it, in your life.. there were moments that you were sometimes more masculine and some that you were more feminime. What kind of woman did you attract when you were really masculine?
 

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Faca, I know that you cannot be totally 100% masculine or feminine, just read Otto Weininger's "Sex and Character" for more info on that, plus a whole other range of nice things.

Another thing is that "human nature" is just social conditioning and culture for centuries, it's not necessarily unchangeable.

Another thing, if I was with a more masculine woman, I don't think that I'd have that much trouble. Besides, women are generally more intelligent than men, and have sharper judgment.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Coppergoat, thx for the book.. i'll read it when i get the chance.

I don't think that you can compare human nature and social condition . I believe, and correct me if you think i'm wrong, that Human Nature is something which has always been the same.. and always will be. So that it never will change, which raised the question if evolution does exist.

Social conditioning, is something which is done by people.. and more to control people. And which can be undone by people.

Woman aren't exactly smarter then man, they may be emotionally smarter.. in the way, that they better understand communication (the visible and the non-visible).

One question for you; Have you ever been with a woman, which had a stronger masculine side?..

ps. The Way Of The Superior Man, by David Deida... provides a lot of information about this subject. If you're interested...
 

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Well they're not just emotionally smarter. Their intelligence lies in their superior judgment of security and safety. Yes a man may have big dreams, but what are those dreams? How dangerous are they in which he will actually end up in the gutter? Is he just day dreaming? As Nietzsche says, it's always a man's will and a woman's willingness.

yes they also make stupid mistakes too. they're largely unconscious and therefore can miss important things or lack to be innovative and prefer style over substance.

i'll check out the book.
 
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Faca said:
Coppergoat, you're right, i do contradict myself.. i'll explain!

It's never 100% masculine the one and the other 100% feminime.. Some man are more feminime and, while some woman can be masculine. And i believe that when a man is really masculine, let's say 90% masculine (just to explain).. that he is strongly attracted to a more feminime woman. But when a man is less masculine, for example 10%.. then he'll be attracted more to masculine woman. But it's just in our nature to be masculine, only a couple of decades of social programming have changed this.

The one needs the other, a relationship where both are really feminime or masculine could never work. What if both were really masculine.. then you'd have a lot of fighting about who takes the really important decisions. And i really believe that most relationship problems arise because of this.

Just think about it, in your life.. there were moments that you were sometimes more masculine and some that you were more feminime. What kind of woman did you attract when you were really masculine?
Faca - this link explains it all ...http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=50480&highlight=natural+order+things
 
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