Girl says she used to be addicted to heroine

[XR 600]

Run

 

[LiveFreeX]

You must be absolutely fvcking desperate dude.

SHE COULD HAVE HEP C. You are not able to detect this for like up to 6 months after the date of infection.

Then you are fvcked for life and you are catering to a girl who can next you at any time. Think about that... you are stuck with an STD (infectious no less) and your pool of chix suddenly shrinks to less than 1%

Now you have to beg her to get pvssy, a former drug user.

It is so not worth the risk, I can't believe you even asked this question.

If you are so desperate to nail a woman get a REAL DOLL...

 

[Knight's Cross]

Waive off. I see storms ahead with this one.

 

[tryst type]

Thanks guys. I've never talked to anyone who was a user so I just wanted some input. Not going to start/continue anything with this chick just more so a future reference.

 

[backbreaker]

Being a former cocaine addict and a weed addict since 15, my questions would be:

- how long was she using? if she was on for 5 years that relapse is likely. If she was on 6 months and been clean 6 months then she is 99% going to be free of it forever.

I wouldn't stereotype anyone for this, and there are LOTS of women who use smack and DONT go on the game, lots. It depends on the level of addiction, and whether she is working. Lots of heroin addicts have jobs. I know in the states you have a retarded system where employers can drug test you (WTF, seriously, WTF, how is it your employers business? I was earning £80K a year and working 50 hours weeks fine when I was on the chop) but in the UK there are lots of smackheads with reasonably low level addictions who carry on just fine for years.

The bad bit is she injected it, which shows a line even a lot of heroin addicts don't cross - all the ones I knew smoked it.

Man it must be different in the States with all these pious attitudes, literally in the UK at least 30% of people under 30 do E's, speed and coke or weed. I would see a girl who did a bit of that casually as a bonus, but being a heroin addict is indeed a totally different world.

If you like her, ask her to get tested before you have sex, she will understand that you respect yourself and just say someone gave you a STI before so you have to be super careful. If I was an ex-intravenious drug used I would understand it totally.

very thought provoking point of view but i would differ.

from my experience a person with 6 months using, isn't done yet. most of the time. 6 months isn't long enough to really hit a bottom.

the second you get some weight back, get a decent job, your family starts to trust you again , start to get your health back, you start to think you can handle the drug. You dont' have that emotional low to call on that the person who has been run down through there has.

As a rule of thumb, I won't sponor anyone under the age of 25 or who has been using for less than 2 years. I just don't have the time to deal with people going in and out. The people who I know, and i know a hell of a lot, who have seriously turned their life around and gottne and stayed clean and become productive members of society have been run down through there and have seriously had enough. they have had enough so that when 1-2 years from now and they are clean they can STILL remember how bad it was. 6 month girl doen't have that.

the first time a boyfriend cheats on 6 month girl or she loses a job or ****, someone just comes to her with free smack it's off to the races more times than not.


the only notable exception i would make to the above are women dealing with DHS. DHS women who are trying to get their kids back generally stay clean and are your best bets.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Man it must be different in the States with all these pious attitudes, literally in the UK at least 30% of people under 30 do E's, speed and coke or weed.

Now I know why so many Brits can't even speak the language they invented properly.

 

[Augustus_McCrae]

Run away as fast as you can! Seriously.

Two Narcotics anonymous sayings:

How can you tell if an addict is lying? Their lips are moving...

I may not be much, but I'm all I think about...

-Augustus

 

[Bokanovsky]

Heroin is a totally different kettle of fish, but nearly everything else bar crack and meth can be done just as safely as alcohol. If not more so.

That's what dopers like to tell themselves.

We don't have quite as many kids on ritalin or adults on prozac, and insanely crazy drug laws where you get buggered in jail for smoking a joint.
Apparently owning an offensive weapon is just fine, but dropping an E is the end of the world.

What's an "offensive weapon"? And how can you criticize Americans for owning guns when in your own country, you've got soldiers, of all people, getting beheaded in the streets by islamic lunatics? The UK has no right to feel morally superior to America. You guys are the most cowardly, pussified, politically correct nation in the West. Even the French have more balls than you do!

- Guns are fine if you live 100 miles from the nearest police station, but are not needed in a large urban conurbation

Oh really? Do you consider London as a large urban "conurbation"? I'm sure the beheading victim wouldn't have minded having a gun on him!

 

[Zarky]

I'm gonna have to use the "sky pixie" line.

Oh and I've used every sort of drug, bar heroin, ketamine and "bath salts." IMHO alcohol is the most dangerous by far.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Very good!

Non dopers = people with no balls, too scared they might die from a tablet.

I'm quite confident that we could shoot down a bunch of jets heading directly for the centre of our cities though.

How are you going to shoot down planes when you're high on dope? Funny guy

 

[Bokanovsky]

Oh and I've used every sort of drug, bar heroin, ketamine and "bath salts."

What's wrong with bath salts? Don't knock it until you try it and all that

 

[backbreaker]

herion is one of those drugs that generally when someone gets off of them, there is a good chance they are done with it. that **** is a ***** to get off. moreso than anything else. the withdraws are ungodly. not somehting someone wants to go through again

most end up using something else but they are generally done with H. from my experience.

 

[AmIAFC]

I hate to judge, but heroine is no joke.

Anything could cause her to relapse to the junk at a moment's notice. A fight, death in the family, depression, lack of sex...who the **** knows?

 

[switch]

You must be absolutely fvcking desperate dude.

SHE COULD HAVE HEP C. You are not able to detect this for like up to 6 months after the date of infection.

Then you are fvcked for life and you are catering to a girl who can next you at any time. Think about that... you are stuck with an STD (infectious no less) and your pool of chix suddenly shrinks to less than 1%

Now you have to beg her to get pvssy, a former drug user.

It is so not worth the risk, I can't believe you even asked this question.

If you are so desperate to nail a woman get a REAL DOLL...

you forgot to advertise chinese women this time

 

[Zarky]

Chinese women are all docile and sweet and none have Hep C.

 

[LiveFreeX]

I just had (Hep C-free) sex with my Chinese wife and lots of possible blood to blood contact. She initiated when I woke up... if that makes you feel any better.

I dont know how far down the totem pole you have to be if you are even debating having sex with an american woman.... I mean heroin addict.

 

[user43770]

I just had (Hep C-free) sex with my Chinese wife and lots of possible blood to blood contact. She initiated when I woke up... if that makes you feel any better.

I dont know how far down the totem pole you have to be if you are even debating having sex with an american woman.... I mean heroin addict.

How many men throughout history have fell in love with and trusted a woman with all of their being? How many posts have you made about a woman's hypergamous nature?

One of the saddest ironies I can think of is when a married man contracts an STD from his wife.

Stay confident, brother. I hope you aren't one of the ones. Sh1t happens every day.

 

[LiveFreeX]

How many men throughout history have fell in love with and trusted a woman with all of their being? How many posts have you made about a woman's hypergamous nature?

The most beautiful thing about my marriage is that I never 'fell in love'. So while I do trust my wife, any breach of that trust gets her nixed immediately, she is keenly aware of this. I don't believe in love for a mate, only lust and obsession. You can love your brother/sister/mom/dad/wife but not really truly love your mate, we all know 'when a man falls in love, he loses control of the frame'. My wife is a best friend and I have love and respect for who she is, while the lust and one-itis has long since gone and the sex is a little boring, I have a love for her the way you would love your best male friend. I think she is good mothering material and I trust that she will be able to put our future children first, over her and my wants and needs. To me that is tantamount to a constructive and progressive marriage. I hope she never breaks the trust we've created as friends because she would wake up the next day and I would be on the first plane out. Don't hope I'm not one of those, I've created a win/win situation for me. If she decides to break that trust, I can find a much younger, hotter woman to fill her position within a day. The best way to maintain a frame is to be with someone you will never compromise your own principles for.

I actually married my wife because I don't find her very attractive, nor am I infatuated with her or her personality. I know she is pretty and my children will be somewhat attractive but I could really care less about my personal satisfaction in this regard. In fact I am quite indifferent to her sexually now even though she is cute for an Asian girl, looks never factored into my decision to marry and I was quite out of love when we tied the not. As far as I am concerned, she allows me to concentrate on my greater mission by providing periodic sex and the ability to autonomously (on her part) accomplish a secondary goal in my life (children). My primary goal to concentrate on the world, hobbies and interests and continue my business goals with the minimum of distractions. Strange enough, I don't want to be part of the game anymore as I find it too distracting to concentrate on both women and business, I think I can accomplish far more in the business world without women on my mind. Having a marriage in which I am the controller allows me to get far more work done on myself than I ever thought possible. I am finally making leaps and bounds in my career, net worth and small business and as far as I'm concerned, I will be able to father a baseball team sized family without any worry. Some swamis say that you need to abstain from sex to achieve fulfillment, I believe that to be somewhat true... I want as much sexual energy to convert into my hobbies as possible and being only somewhat attracted to my wife allows me to do this quite well. If you are curious as to what these business goals are, well I have a growing obsession to get the human race into space/Mars. I would like to see intersolar travel become a reality before I die.

Get your head around that one.


Anyway, don't mean to derail the thread. There are better women out there for you OP.

 

[Zarky]

The most beautiful thing about my marriage is that I never 'fell in love'. So while I do trust my wife, any breach of that trust gets her nixed immediately, she is keenly aware of this. I don't believe in love for a mate, only lust and obsession. You can love your brother/sister/mom/dad/wife but not really truly love your mate, we all know 'when a man falls in love, he loses control of the frame'. My wife is a best friend and I have love and respect for who she is, while the lust and one-itis has long since gone and the sex is a little boring, I have a love for her the way you would love your best male friend. I think she is good mothering material and I trust that she will be able to put our future children first, over her and my wants and needs. To me that is tantamount to a constructive and progressive marriage. I hope she never breaks the trust we've created as friends because she would wake up the next day and I would be on the first plane out. Don't hope I'm not one of those, I've created a win/win situation for me. If she decides to break that trust, I can find a much younger, hotter woman to fill her position within a day. The best way to maintain a frame is to be with someone you will never compromise your own principles for.

I actually married my wife because I don't find her very attractive, nor am I infatuated with her or her personality. I know she is pretty and my children will be somewhat attractive but I could really care less about my personal satisfaction in this regard. In fact I am quite indifferent to her sexually now even though she is cute for an Asian girl, looks never factored into my decision to marry and I was quite out of love when we tied the not. As far as I am concerned, she allows me to concentrate on my greater mission by providing periodic sex and the ability to autonomously (on her part) accomplish a secondary goal in my life (children). My primary goal to concentrate on the world, hobbies and interests and continue my business goals with the minimum of distractions. Strange enough, I don't want to be part of the game anymore as I find it too distracting to concentrate on both women and business, I think I can accomplish far more in the business world without women on my mind. Having a marriage in which I am the controller allows me to get far more work done on myself than I ever thought possible. I am finally making leaps and bounds in my career, net worth and small business and as far as I'm concerned, I will be able to father a baseball team sized family without any worry. Some swamis say that you need to abstain from sex to achieve fulfillment, I believe that to be somewhat true... I want as much sexual energy to convert into my hobbies as possible and being only somewhat attracted to my wife allows me to do this quite well. If you are curious as to what these business goals are, well I have a growing obsession to get the human race into space/Mars. I would like to see intersolar travel become a reality before I die.

Get your head around that one.


Anyway, don't mean to derail the thread. There are better women out there for you OP.

I'm gonna quote that in its entirety so it stays around forever. That's cool that you're interested in sending people to Neptune for whatever reason, and if we need advice on how to generate warp drive power we'll be sure to ask you, but, when it comes to the interactions that most normal men want to have with women, your advice is worth absolutely zero.

Most guys don't want as a wife some subservient maid they're not even attracted to, just for the purpose of plopping out an entire village of children so as to colonize the universe quicker. Your post makes you sound like a strange robot who has no need for smelly humans other than to further your plans for galactic domination.

I'm extremely glad you opened up like that, because it shows that your views on women, marriage, children, etc. are so out of touch with pretty much everyone else that folks in this forum can safely discount your opinions on the matters at hand.

 

[LiveFreeX]

I'm extremely glad you opened up like that, because it shows that your views on women, marriage, children, etc. are so out of touch with pretty much everyone else that folks in this forum can safely discount your opinions on the matters at hand.

That's fine with me Zark and if that puts me out of touch with everyone on this forum, all the better. Life is not just about shooting your load, I've been on sosuave around 10 years now and I've had my share of girls but I think I've also wasted 10 years focusing on women and their bvllsh1t... what a huge waste of time trying to impress those things not worth impressing. The amount of effort and time men put into game could likely have already brought us warp drive. I can speak at length about game and what not but after so many lays, who the fvck cares. How will bedding random women continue to serve me in the next 20 years of my life? How will it take me further towards my goals? In short, it wont.

Zark, I have a feeling you are a butt hurt woman or some sort of mangina or a really 'warped' PUA. Making PUA the center of your life isn't healthy and if you'd actually listen to what the manosphere and red pillers talk about then you'd understand my point of view. The scope of this forum is only about picking women up and rarely encompasses the life to lead AFTER you've learned the game. There are benefits to marriage, despite what the circle jerk of pre-feminists would have you believe. AND, I believe constant pump and dump is detrimental to the system (of which we are all a part). I think extra-martial affairs lead to corruption of self and society. If this works counter to the opinions on sosuave, so be it. I'd rather spend my time working on the warp drive thanks.

You can't fault me for anything, I have a solid HB8 which does my bidding and is loyal to a T because of the way I have setup this relationship. I am married to a traditional girl and I have the best intentions of providing for my children in a healthy conservative marriage. I am re-directing my efforts elsewhere into something productive for society as a whole. What can you say about me? I'm an AFC? Nope. I'm a Chump? Nope. I'm a broke sleazeball who spends my time banging prostitutes abroad? Nope.
I'm a retired PUA with the goal of giving back to society after being freed of north american societal expectations. Yes.

You on the other hand, what have you accomplished and what will you give back to society?

Galactic Domination sounds like a worthy trade off to putting random h0es to bed every night. I'd much rather be Darth Vader than Han Solo.

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I think we are de-railing this thread, if you want to debate me or attack me on my beliefs, start a new thread and we'll take it over there. For the rest of this thread though, the op is an idiot to even consider what a drug addict will do to his life. Once the fvcking is over, what is he left with? What happens if they accidentally have a child together? Nobody considers the consequences of their actions here. The knowledge contained on this website should allow him to pick up QUALITY women and he should be focused on that. What good is knowing game skills if he intends to use it on the lowest quality women? He would be better off re-joining the chump matrix, at least there he thinks she is a steak dinner. Don't waste your time with game if your only goal is to fvck these women, they don't deserve the time and effort and they don't add anything to your life. As an ex-PUA and sosuave club member, I am a ashamed that new PUAs are using skills on low quality women (the greatest pool being those in America). You are rewarding the manosphere's greatest enemies with things they should not have access to.

North America is on the correct path, women are choosing to be low quality and opt out of traditional roles. They are meeting low quality men who treat them like crap, pump them and dump them and leave them as single mothers. Those same women should not be rewarded by EX-BETAs who despite their betaness have quite a lot going for them unlike the natural Alpha's who are usually spending time in the lockup. Betas should be realizing that the feminists no longer hold dominion over their lives and begin to pursue women who will appreciate game skills and 'woMAN up' by learning to cook, clean and take care of kids. PUAs should not be diving back into the pool of sh1t headfirst in order to find the cleanest turd of the bunch. Game gives you super powers, so you should be seeking out super heroes not super villians. As betas we are the best worker bees of society and great things can come of a beta who is realizing his full potential. Game theory will help you unlock this, don't squander it on low quality women.

IF YOU ARE ON SOSUAVE YOU ARE AN EX BETA.