"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Girl Runs Hot And Cold

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I've been gaming this hot tall brunette who works at my gym. She seems very shy and down to earth despite killer bod and looks. Anyway, the first time I spoke to her, she seemed very shy. She talked to me over her shoulder, doing her chores. Then, when I asked her what she was doing later that night, she finally opened up. She turned around 180 degrees to face, big smile, and said "nothing." I didn't have a follow up, since she went from shy to open instantaneously.

I see her again, chat her up, she seems friendly. We talk and I ask for a phone number so we can chat again. Now, she is very angry and upset. She starts to yell at me that she has a boyfriend and that her boyfriend wouldn't like it if she gave me her phone number.

What happened? Why did she turn from hot to cold overnight?

My theory is that she felt shunned when I didn't ask her out our very first conversation, and now is feeling defensive. Experienced guys, what's your take on this?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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KontrollerX

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What the flying fvck?

She had no right to yell at you and you should of told her so right then and there and walked away.

In anycase she sounds bat sh!t insane with this kind of wacky out of left field outburst so just stay away if you know whats good for you dude.

Even if she comes up and apologizes to you and makes things open for conversation again leave it alone as far as trying to move forward gaming her.

This weirdness is only a sign of things to come to proceed in a relationship with her.
 

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She's bi-polar. f.uck that b.itch.
 

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Ha ha! Well thanks for the sympathy I suppose. I'm really looking at this more from an analytical point of view. My best guess is she's very sensitive, felt rejected initially and then spewed anger later at me as a result. I need more experienced guys to help me figure this one out.

Mack
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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tick37

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Who cares? Let it go. It won't happen every time, but it happens. Chalk it up as one you won't worry about anymore.
 

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Well if you don't care, why bother to respond? Jeezh. I want to learn from this situation, nothing wrong with that. If you don't have any insight, why bother to post.

tick37 said:
Who cares? Let it go. It won't happen every time, but it happens. Chalk it up as one you won't worry about anymore.
 

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she probably gets hit on a lot and is tired of it, especially since she has a b/f. but since u didnt ask her for her phone number the first time you guys talked she probably assumed you were just a guy being nice with no attentions, and to her that was a relief. she was probably looking forward to being ur friend. but then u asked for her number and it struck a nerve. however she had no right to snap at you like that. she does sound pretty weird and moody. i wouldnt wanta get involved with a girl that.
 

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I'm telling you not to care. You don't need her BS. Forget about her. Don't give her the satisfaction of knowing you care either. Ignore her from now on.
 

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It's not like I'm in love with her. But she had a drastic mood/frame change which puzzles me. It's interesting in and of itself, and will help me with game in the future.

tick37 said:
I'm telling you not to care. You don't need her BS. Forget about her.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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tick37

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mackdaknife said:
It's not like I'm in love with her. But she had a drastic mood/frame change which puzzles me. It's interesting in and of itself, and will help me with game in the future.
Well, that's why I said it won't happen every time, but it will happen. Don't get discouraged.
 

tick37

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Don't base your game off of one chick. Keep trying different girls and trying different things until you get it right.
 

tick37

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Good luck, mang. I'm leaving work now and off to bigger and better things.
 

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Its possible she may of flipped out on you for simply having a bad day but thats still not a good sign for a chick to exhibit who you want to proceed with.

Only deal with chicks who handle their anger in positive ways which means whatever way is healthy and not directed at you.

And you don't "need guys with more experience" to tell you whats what as plenty of us already in here have plenty of experienced to tell you what is going on but the problem is we don't have enough information to go on about this girl to give you a really good estimate of her complete character as a person and why she acted this way towards you so hot one minute so cold the next.

It could be she simply was having a bad day, deals with anger badly in general, is mentally fvcked up somehow but we don't know because you simply don't know her well enough and haven't given us a bigger picture to look at and draw out conclusions and opinions from.

And I know we tell people to go on gut instinct around here but in this case I think your instincts surrounding her anger are wrong.

I think it is wrong because I do not believe she was angry for feeling shunned.

If it turns out she is mentally fvcked up with my gut instinct I believe she was so open to you because she figured well this guy is just showing interest because he wants to be my platonic emotional tamp0n buddy who listens to all my problems without getting in my panties but then you shattered her stupid little reality and she became offended. I think she became offended because you broke through her disordered dream image of the role you were to play in her life and her own self hatred for being a bit interested in your offer but she reacts angrily as a means to keep her dream life alive with the BF and shuts you out and pretends you never existed since you won't be the emotional tamp0n she dreamt you would be.

The severe hot cold types are usually personality disordered or bipolar which is why I brought up this guess.

If she's normal after all it was likely anger from a bad day or like another poster said anger built up from guys not wanting to be her friends.

Whatever the case though I believe your theory for why she shunned you is wrong.

No offense if any of this sounded harsh as we are as always only here to help.
 

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What if she got her boyfriend to hit you while you aren't looking? Are you prepared to handled that with a headbutt or knee to the groin? If not, then steer clear of this one.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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If you have a look at some of my most recent threads, I got a girl's number on Tuesday and today she was really cold. (I claimed that I wanted it because I like to talk to her... which is true.) She has a really sick boyfriend. She was openly critical, tried to ignore me all day, and gave me really short answers.

I hope to patch things up but I'm not sure how to do that. My DJ knowledge says to let her anger blow over and she'll calm down, but I have never been in this sort of situation before. Any advice?
 

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mackdaknife said:
Then, when I asked her what she was doing later that night, she finally opened up. She turned around 180 degrees to face, big smile, and said "nothing." I didn't have a follow up, since she went from shy to open instantaneously.
What?

How about asking for her number? You don't need a preplanned routine to close--especially if she was giving you such warm, open, instant-rapport as you claim. This was mistake number one. Rather than demonstrating that you have direct confidence and closing her right then and there, you defaulted to inaction. Bad!

mackdaknife said:
I see her again, chat her up, she seems friendly. We talk and I ask for a phone number so we can chat again. Now, she is very angry and upset. She starts to yell at me that she has a boyfriend and that her boyfriend wouldn't like it if she gave me her phone number.
Honestly, what I would have done is just completely deny that I was making any sort of move: "Whaat? You got it all wrong... you think I'm trying to pick you up? Hahaha!" (with a shocked smile).

Just reverse all of her negative energy on herself to the point where she questions her own judgment. Whatever you do, don't get all bent out of shape over it, she's just a chick.
 
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