Girl refuses my advances

[HyperAnalyze]

I went on two dates with this latina girl and she's a little bit younger than me.

First date went well, but at the end when I was escalating you could tell she was getting slightly annoyed or getting frustrated at my advances.

Second date we hit it off great, we go back to her place and we are watching a movie and as I'm trying to escalate/arouse her she's goes, "stop" or "watch the movie".

I try virtually from every possible angle to approach this. Maybe I should have been "indifferent".

What gives? I feel like I made all the right moves but she's probably looking for a relationship. Should I just next her?

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Stop being thirsty

 

[devilkingx2]

there's 3 possibilities here, you pick the one you feel is most likely

1. she's just not that into you.

2. she's like 13.

3. she's a total prude and nobody gets anywhere with her.

 

[Your_Royal_Flyness]

The only reason why this is an issue for you is because you don't have options. You also sound young. Here's some game for you.

A woman will always have an edge over the average guy with no options--(meaning you don't have OTHER women). Why is this? Because her p*ssy is her "trump card". However, a man with confidence AND options always trumps any single p*ssy.

She knows you want it and can feel your thirst. Your best bet is to stop trying with her. Don't call her. Stop advancing. If you chase women, they'll run away. Spend time kickin it with other women. If that's an issue, check out some of the free audio previews at www.tinyurl.com/flystore or at www.flynesspublishing.com.

In the meantime, learn to value yourself and not push up on uninterested chicks. It lowers your self-esteem.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Anytime a woman doesn't submit its a sign of low interest (as others have said). Don't confuse hard to get with low interest. Hard to get will be playful rejection.. not annoyed rejection.

The relationship needs to be on YOUR terms. She needs to be following YOUR lead. If she is the boss.. then you're in beta fag territory soon to be friend zoned. :yes:

Even if you don't get p*ssy on the first or second meeting.. at the very least she should EMBRACE physicality and like when you touch her. If she doesn't like being touched by you its because you don't make her taco tingle. Simple as that.

NEXT..

 

[Maximus Rex]

Being that Rex is an acolyte of Mystery and a very strong and vocal proponent of the fore mention's "method," it sounds to me that you did what Rex is always doing:

1) You miscalculated your escalation

or more than likely

2) You didn't complete a step.

Remember, (and I'm speaking from experience,) the game is linear. If you think back to all of your successes with women and you cross reference your successes with your knowledge of the game, you'll come to the realization that you've completed all of the requisite steps that culminated into sex and/or a relationship.

What you have to do is figure out where you went wrong and if this mistaken rectified. Here's some things that have worked for me.

1) The "Freeze Out," this is mentioned in The Game, and is a technique used to overcome LMR. As you mentioned said it shows, "indifference," and you're punishing the chick by momentarily withdrawing your attention for her noncompliance and bad behavior.

Second date we hit it off great, we go back to her place and we are watching a movie and as I'm trying to escalate/arouse her she's goes, "stop" or "watch the movie".

When she pulled ^^^ that sh*t you should have called another broad and left and if you didn't have another chick you needed to make her BELIEVE that you did.

Rex generally is not an advocate of lying to chicks due to the problems and unintended consequences that it can cause, but as they say, there's an exception to every rule and this is it. This chick NEEDS TO KNOW that she's one of your MANY OPTIONS! When she did a "Scottie Pippin," and wouldn't come into the game, you needed to go to your "bench," and find somebody who would. If you're not spinning plates, (and you should,) you should made a faux phone call to one of your other hoes, or excused yourself, call one of your boys, telling them to call or text you with an invitation to kick it with some other more fun loving females.

Again, Rex will tell you from experience that women will act better, try harder, and are just more affable human beings when they're knowingly competing for your time, attention, and affection. Social proof does wonders and you need to build some.

Rex was f*cking with "HONEY," for about eight years, (with only a "kinda sorta menage a trois to show for it, http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=177649, in addition to the countless times he gave this b*tch oral treats. One night she called wanted to see what I was up to. Rex lied and told her I was going to room with some broads. The next night, Rex was f*cking her fat ass. If doing one or two of things doesn't work, then you have a set to analyze and a mistake to learn from.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Being that Rex is an acolyte of Mystery and a very strong and vocal proponent of the fore mention's "method," it sounds to me that you did what Rex is always doing:

1) You miscalculated your escalation

or more than likely

2) You didn't complete a step.

Remember, (and I'm speaking from experience,) the game is linear. If you think back to all of your successes with women and you cross reference your successes with your knowledge of the game, you'll come to the realization that you've completed all of the requisite steps that culminated into sex and/or a relationship.

What you have to do is figure out where you went wrong and if this mistaken rectified. Here's some things that have worked for me.

1) The "Freeze Out," this is mentioned in The Game, and is a technique used to overcome LMR. As you mentioned said it shows, "indifference," and you're punishing the chick by momentarily withdrawing your attention for her noncompliance and bad behavior.

Second date we hit it off great, we go back to her place and we are watching a movie and as I'm trying to escalate/arouse her she's goes, "stop" or "watch the movie".

When she pulled ^^^ that sh*t you should have called another broad and left and if you didn't have another chick you needed to make her BELIEVE that you did.

Rex generally is not an advocate of lying to chicks due to the problems and unintended consequences that it can cause, but as they say, there's an exception to every rule and this is it. This chick NEEDS TO KNOW that she's one of your MANY OPTIONS! When she did a "Scottie Pippin," and wouldn't come into the game, you needed to go to your "bench," and find somebody who would. If you're not spinning plates, (and you should,) you should made a faux phone call to one of your other hoes, or excused yourself, call one of your boys, telling them to call or text you with an invitation to kick it with some other more fun loving females.

Again, Rex will tell you from experience that women will act better, try harder, and are just more affable human beings when they're knowingly competing for your time, attention, and affection. Social proof does wonders and you need to build some.

Rex was f*cking with "HONEY," for about eight years, (with only a "kinda sorta menage a trois to show for it, http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=177649, in addition to the countless times he gave this b*tch oral treats. One night she called wanted to see what I was up to. Rex lied and told her I was going to room with some broads. The next night, Rex was f*cking her fat ass. If doing one or two of things doesn't work, then you have a set to analyze and a mistake to learn from.

 

[nismo-4]

She senses you're desperate or she has low interest. I rule her to be an attention wh0re who is angry that you want to be more than friends.

Drop her ass and get another girl. Judge nismo's orders.

Case closed.

 

[BeDJ]

You didn't make your intentions known early on. Escalation is easier (and smoother) when your prospect is aware of your intentions. Stop beating around the bush, grab your nutsack and run with it. You'll be surprised where you can end up.

 

[JoshSway]

I went on two dates with this latina girl and she's a little bit younger than me.

First date went well, but at the end when I was escalating you could tell she was getting slightly annoyed or getting frustrated at my advances.

Second date we hit it off great, we go back to her place and we are watching a movie and as I'm trying to escalate/arouse her she's goes, "stop" or "watch the movie".

I try virtually from every possible angle to approach this. Maybe I should have been "indifferent".

What gives? I feel like I made all the right moves but she's probably looking for a relationship. Should I just next her?

Strange. She agreed to have you over after you already escalated a lot earlier (so she knew you would escalate)? Weird. I would just keep escalating until she stops wanting to go out with your or gives in or next her (I would probably next her). Either way, date other women as well.

 

[HyperAnalyze]

Thanks for all the input guys...

I probably should have updated the thread but, I got friend zoned by her. (whatever, she wasn't even that great)

Some details that I left out...

1. She had MAJOR daddy issues (Dad beat the mom, mom still lives with the family under the same roof, Dad called her a stupid b***h all the time cause she wasn't performing well in soccer)

2. We made out on the first date, so I know I made the right moves by escalating. It's just by the end of the first date it didn't seem like she was comfortable going all the way.

3. She always never initiates. I mean that's fine. I'm the guy I have to initiate right? But she never initiated hand-holding or any kisses. If a girl is attracted to me she general will want to initiate those things, so that was a red flag.

4. She self-proclaimed herself and her sisters to be the "kardashians" .

5. Her last BF was this guy who had a lot of status, getting her into the club, getting tables, popping bottles, etc. Seemed like she was just using him?

Moral of the story

Probably should have seen the red flags a little bit earlier. But again, thanks for all the insight guys.

 

[Renegade357]

Second date we hit it off great, we go back to her place and we are watching a movie and as I'm trying to escalate/arouse her she's goes, "stop" or "watch the movie".

Most of the advice I've seen so far has been bad. Getting mad at a girl for not going straight for your nuts on the first or second date is ridiculous.

Anyway. You need to slow down. Sounds like you were doing well with your 2nd date. But then you screwed it up by spending too much time with her. You should have kissed her at the end when things were going great then left. But instead you lingered and watched a movie with her for hours. That's something you do with your girlfriend. Never treat a girl you just started dating like she's your girlfriend. Big mistake that I've made a few times myself with some good chicks and lost them.

In the beginning within the first 1-8 dates when you start seeing a girl you have to go slow, get in and out quick and slowly escalate during each date. UNLESS she comes on to you first. It should be obvious to you.

Keep track of her reaction after each date when you escalate. If you go slow and after several dates she still resists or flat refuses you then that's a problem. You should back off or next her.

 

[GS750]

Any chick that proclaims that her and her sisters are like the Kardashians should be avoided. I don't think you screwed up really, I think her interest is lukewarm at best. It happens.

 

[Renegade357]

Any chick you proclaims that her and her sisters are like the Kardashians should be avoided. I don't think you screwed up really, I think her interest is lukewarm at best. It happens.

Agreed on both parts. She sounds like trouble. He made some minor tactical errors with the date but nothing that bad. I just learned over the years that if you go in slowly but surely it pays off in the long run.