"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

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Girl making it easy to approach..I'm being a puss.......when do they go "fvck him"

Popeyes

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Yea basically theres this girl (HB8) at my school that I'm pretty sure is at least somewhat interested.

- First time I saw her I walked past her as she was sitting down on a bench talking to someone, I saw her look at my face and then saw her eyes sweep down

- She was studying in the same area as me, and so after I had done what I went to do and was going back to my seat, I notice her standing talking to her sitting friend, so as I'm approaching, she literally immediately breaks from her friend and starts walking the same way I'm going, so that she ends up right in front of me so I get a perfect view of her ass (very nice ass/hips too btw, the kind that you know every guy notices)

-I had some papers in my hand and dropped them by accident after she crossed over to go to the bathroom, she stopped picked it up, gave it to me I said thanks, she said no problem that was that.

- A couple days later, maybe a week or something I see pass her on my way to get something as shes talking to some guy by a table (different area). Right by where she was studying was a door that led downstairs and as I passed her she didn't make EC or anything, but she probably saw me through her peripheral vision, so anyways I open the door and make my way down the steps, little did I know that she was behind me till after I said "fvcking ridiculous" outloud to myself. So I walk out the door and make a left and go by some vending machines, but she goes straight ahead and makes a right to the study area she's usually at.

So she's basically given me two basic opportunities to approach, and I didn't really do anything... something felt kind of wierd about me turning around and initating convo with her behind me or whatever so I didn't, but I'm wondering at what point do girls with interest like this just go "wow fvck this guy then..." if they're attracted physically the attraction should remain, but you may have to work harder later if you actually approach or what? Any experience with this guys? Btw we've made EC on two seperate occasions in that same area she usually studies, but I never consider approaching there because she's always with a group of girls and sometimes she sits at a table with like 4 of them haha.












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I'm no experienced DJ or anything, but I think I'm improving, and have learnt the answer to this question over the past few months. I think that the point where the girl thinks '**** him' (or at least her estimation of you goes down considerably) is straight after the first time you have a reasonable chance to approach (not cold approach though).

So, if you see her sitting down and your walking past her, then thats OK, cos opening her would be some what out of the ordinary (altough not a bad thing). But if you happen to sit near her on a bus, or you meet each other in the laundrette i.e. anywhere where making conversation would not be weird or unusual, and DON'T approach, then I think thats your best chance gone.

Obviously this isn't a hard and fast rule, but in my experience and from observing ppl I know, this is the best answer I can come up with.

I guess the whole point of this is "strike while the iron's hot."
 

Thomas94305

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Popeyes.. DO THE DJ BOOTCAMP. You're getting into this "when do I approach, when do I not approach", etc. When do you approach a buddy? When you feel like it.

This whole approach thing is just a very very long journey. I've been at it a couple of years, and see regular progress, and see that more is needed. The bootcamp will jumpstart things for you. It will make situations like HB8 more natural to you, not a big deal, talking will flow easier.
 
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