"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Girl losing IOI

Baruch

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Been dating a chick for two months, now she thinks I have some insecurities issues. Losing IOI in me. Currently she is still upset with me.

I like the girl, but I lost the upper hand and now I feel like I have to initiate contact.

Should I next her? Or just not call her for a while to get some of that IOI back?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Rex Man

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Here's what you should do first; give us some relevant FUKING INFORMATION!

That's like calling your doc and saying, "Doc, somethings hurting, any ideas?"

What's the exact situation?
---------:up:-----------
 

Baruch

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Rex Man said:
Here's what you should do first; give us some relevant FUKING INFORMATION!

That's like calling your doc and saying, "Doc, somethings hurting, any ideas?"

What's the exact situation?
---------:up:-----------
She feels I am insecure becuse recently according to her I've been asking more of what is she doing and where did she go to. She feels like I am checking up on her and she didn't think I was this way for the first 6 weeks. She got mad at me the other day, and told me all the things she thinks I do but later that night met up with me she was slighlty drunk, we talked, made out. But yesterday she still didnt call me, or messsage me.

Which is a first time ever since I've been seeing her, she always calls. So I called her instead. She told me she is still a little bit adjetated with me and after we talked on the phone for a while she says she suspects me of having jealosy issues and insecurity.

Today same story, she doesnt text me like she always did, dont call me.
So I called her on my break to see whats up. We talked about random **** for 10 minutes and thats it.

She is losing IOI, I lost value in her eyes. She was completly enamoured with me before, calling me, texting me all day, up until now. What is the best approach to that?

I actually think she is a good person, hard working and stable, therefore Id like to keep her around. But I dont like being ignored, and this hurts my pride when I dont get treated like she adores me. Therefore, I either want to get her IOI back up, or just drop her period to avoid drama.
 

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Give her some space, she'll come around. Don't call her for a while, ake yourself busy, try not to check up on her and that crap. By dropping the IOI's you're giving her, she should respond the same way you did.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Maxfarsigth

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Dude, I say: just chil!!

Keep things in the fun side. Because worring or investigating too much about itcan make you stop enjoying..
anyway

id try making myself scarce
or maybe putting my mind in some other girl or activity for a while

if theres no effect
then id probably leave the scenario cause
..so many fish in the sea!

well.. good luck
 

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:nono:

I don't know if this helps but give her sometime.
Not to long or she's gone!!!!!
And appoligize say you were just a bit worried, you don't want to lose her.

Try this might work
If you don't try, you don't score!!!
 

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Baruch said:
I dont get this psyche. Maybe someone can throw in some scientific explenation here.

Girl completly crazy about a guy, then blows up and says all the things she doesnt like about him and completly backs away.

Is that a self defense mechanism?
It sounds as if she thought you were cool but as she got to know you she decided that she didn’t like you as much as she thought she would. Then, your reaction just reinforced her loss of interest.

If a girl pulls away in play, she expects you to pounce back with gusto. But, if she pulls away because she has lost interest, anything you do, other than to retreat yourself, is seen as pathetic.

Time to move on.
 

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Guys really don't do the required reading in the DJ Bible.

She's telling you that you're clingy. Don't be a chump. It's like if you're always expecting a girl to cheat on you - sometimes it will push her to do it when she usually wouldn't.

You've been given good advice. Lighten up. Worry about your own agenda.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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potato said:
It sounds as if she thought you were cool but as she got to know you she decided that she didn’t like you as much as she thought she would. Then, your reaction just reinforced her loss of interest.

If a girl pulls away in play, she expects you to pounce back with gusto. But, if she pulls away because she has lost interest, anything you do, other than to retreat yourself, is seen as pathetic.

Time to move on.
She doesn't think you are pathetic, you probably don't ecxist anymore for her
 

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Time for...drum roll please...Ganji Games!!
 

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Fcuk!

I feel like I am about to crack and call her. I get so AFC when I develop a feeling for a girl. Therefore, I much rather keep it just sexual and short. But I really enjoy talking and hanging out with this chick, she is a good chick and lots of fun and an HB8.

Ever since I talked to her briefly on Thursday evening, she hasn't texted me or called me. She been the one always initiating contact with me for most of the time and even told me she felt unnperciated. But now she thinks I have insecurity issues and I make fun of her to much(and I always have ever since the day I met her but now she takes it very serious when I comment on her).

Although, she said she ain't mad at me, she isn't calling me back and told me that when this kinda **** happends she needs to protect herself. No one else matters. We did hang out way to much with each other, spend lots of time with each other. To the point I was getting a little sick of her.

But now I want to talk to her and I feel like I am about to crack and call her. Although, I know she is probably working till midnight right now.

I hate getting AFC like this once I start liking a chick I am boning after couple of months.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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She thinks you are needy because you are! If she has any interest left, this is a test to see if you will crack and call her. If you do, you lose. If you read this, and still do it, you are a self-sabotager.
 

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Nighthawk said:
She thinks you are needy because you are! If she has any interest left, this is a test to see if you will crack and call her. If you do, you lose. If you read this, and still do it, you are a self-sabotager.
She is the needy one though, calling me/texting me and initiating us to hang out most of the time. She showed more affection towards me then showed her. Don't get me wrong, imo I showed her plenty of affection and attention, alot more than I would usually do with a female. But she still would tell me that she feels like a convinience to me and I don't appreciate her enough..but at the same time tell me that she thinks I don't want to lose her and knows that I like her(Insecure). It was all nice and dandy, up until few days ago when she went cold turkey. She said that guys would usually fall for her because she is low maintance, and easy to get along with, but then they would act as if they can do whateve they want.

As far as I am concerned, I know she wants me to call her, but she wants to pout about it. I called her again, but she works at this hour. I am done calling its up to her to call me back.
 

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MrGold said:
ake yourself busy
This is the most important thing, of all advice, that could be given, on this forum. Be too fast for her. If she can't keep up, she can't keep up, and as such, it's easier to just drop the wh0re. Never let her know anything, what you're thinkin, where you're going, who you're with, what you do for a livin. Keep the woman in the dark. This is how my grandfather has stayed married to my grandmother for 60+ years, by keeping her a bubble of laughter among the grandkids and family, but in the kitchen when the men get to talkin. They've got no business talkin to us men, the women.
 

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so I get a text message from her at midnight telling me she is at work and asking me how I am doing. I messaged her back with some T Pain lyrics just being funny since I was in the club with me friends.

She messages me 3 times after that because I wasnt answering. Called her briefly after I left the club and talked to her for a few seconds told her I'll call her back. I am not planning on calling her back right now. Just got home from the club, gotta go to work.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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