"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Girl likes me to go out with her and her friends?

El MonoLoco

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What do I make of this....on quite a number of our dates this chick likes to bring her friends along....most of the time they are from out of town and are only staying a day or two...

Am I being shown off or is she not comortable being alone with me....


what do yall think?


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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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SELF-MASTERY

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You could always ask her, but that might be too fkign simple.
 

Pimp-sicle

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Unless you've already hooked up with her, your in the friend zone bro. Group dates are never a good sign unless your already dating or in a LTR with the girl. As long as you haven't invested too much feeling into this chick, stash her in your inventory, use her for social proof and start gaming new girls.




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Pimp-sicle's right - it all depends if you slept with her or not. It sounds bad to me - start making passes at her friends next time ;)
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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That happened to me recently. You're in the friendzone.
 

WRX_is_like_SEX

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Pimp-sicle said:
Unless you've already hooked up with her, your in the friend zone bro. Group dates are never a good sign unless your already dating or in a LTR with the girl.

I second that . . .

Any attempt to get you out with her friend should be rejected outright! . . .:down:

I would just go for her throat (proverbially speaking) . . .Just tell her something to the effect of " I am not interested in yr friends . .I have plenty of friend of my own . .It is you and you alone I am interested in" . . .

The above may sound slightly needy, but IMHO will have two effects . . .

A) Will shock her back to the ground/throw the ball deep in her court . .

B) Will show that you are a man who's not afraid, and fully prepared to gamble . . .

But for your own health and safety stay away from her friends, and don't be afraid to offend her to bring her back down to earth!:cool:
 
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