"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Girl likes me but pulls away because of a defense mechanism? Wha?

Juicyjays

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Hi guys,

I recently started dating a very gorgeous 28 year old. Her past is rough, she's been physically abused by her ex (badly too), so she wants togo at a slower pace, which is cool.

She came over last night (4th date), and she was in an odd mood. She left within an hour of coming over. I was a little confused, then she sent me this huge text,

"I want to appologize, I have had such ****ty situations in my past and am not used to someone being nice and genuine that I'm not used to it and I might start pulling away. Its just a defence mechanism and not what I mean to do. I'm sorry and you may have to be a little patient."

I texted her back saying it's all good, I understand since her last relationship was horrible. I said we'll take it slow and see where it goes from there. Thanked her for being upfront.

Can someone explain this defense mechanism a little better? Any advice on what to do? Im a confident, genuine guy and will never be different to impress a chick.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Jariel

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I've had this happen a number of times. I dated one girl and she acted ice cold for the first hour of our date. I almost called it quits and walked out, but when I asked her if she was ok she opened up and admitted she was really nervous and gets panic attacks. After that, things went really well.

Other girls have flaked on me, then revealed some weeks/months later that they were being defensive. There's a lot of cynicism on these boards that say if a woman is cold or flakes, she must be banging some other guy, but sometimes there's more to it.

However, here's something you have to watch out for. With women like this, it can be way too easy to become too nice, too caring and sensitive. Even though these women are insecure, they are still women and are still repulsed by guys who kiss their ass.

I fell into this trap a number of times. I tried to overcompensate by showing her I was not like the guys who abused her and I was more gentle etc. I even held back from making moves, but it was my downfall.

Treat women like this the same way you would treat any woman and don't repress your sexuality. Just understand if she's a bit erratic, it's nothing personal. Don't go chasing her and getting all understanding and sensitive if she backs off, just give her space and let her come to you.
 

women haze

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You should have just said ...."Thank you for being up front" and left it at that. you didnt need to say all that other sensitive ****....

Give her space and let her come to you
 

gaspipe

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Jariel is correct. The worse thing you can possibly do is try to be the sensitive understanding guy lest you become her shoulder to cry on while shes banging the the jerk who treats her like shyt.

I would just disappear for a while and give her some space to sort things out. if she has any interest in you she will wonder WTF happened and come looking for you.
 

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She's crazy and/or probably has serious mental issues she has to deal with.

If it's just a fu** you want, then don't sweat it and just wait...

If it's a relationship... if it were me, I would stay away.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Juicyjays

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Good advice, that's pretty much what I thought.

I'm a very busy guy to begin with (60 hour work weeks) and I'm actually going on vacation for a week down in Mexico in a couple days with my buddies, so she'll have tons of time to think.
 
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