Alcohol has killed people, alcohol poisoning ring a bell. I said roid rage is a myth. Steroids have killed ZERO people.
This is an argument you can't win baby, you're out of your league here. Please keep it up though because I'm being entertained.
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Girl leaves because I was on Roids, acceptable reason??
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This is an argument you can't win baby, you're out of your league here. Please keep it up though because I'm being entertained.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Also every side effect that you mentioned happens to plenty of men. Most of them don't even use steroids. They are all POSSIBLE side effects. Infertiltity for example, the biggest juicers in the world IFBB pro bodybuilders, almost all have kids.
http://www2.cbs5.com/localnews/local_story_069203217.html
http://www.geocities.com/xjaialai/Steriod.html
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/03/18/FAMILIES.TMP
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews/2003/03/18/45677-ap.html
I can find more, but I think I've illustrated my point.
http://www.geocities.com/xjaialai/Steriod.html
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/03/18/FAMILIES.TMP
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews/2003/03/18/45677-ap.html
I can find more, but I think I've illustrated my point.
Actually you've proved my point genius
Steroids didn't kill any of these people. The kids committed suicide, kids do that all the time without being on steroids. They were depressed before they used. These parents just refuse to look in the mirror and blame themselves for not getting their kid help for depression. Alcohol has caused suicide supposedly. The strongman died of a heart attack. People never die of a heart attack
He was obese too. Not good for the heart.Perhaps you would like me to find some links where alcohol killed some people. Do you need those links
Sorry Wyldfire, you don't know everything.
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LOL, why don't you look at the physiological damage that steroids creates:Originally posted by Fatality
Actually you've proved my point genius
Steroids didn't kill any of these people. The kids committed suicide, kids do that all the time without being on steroids. They were depressed before they used. These parents just refuse to look in the mirror and blame themselves for not getting their kid help for depression. Alcohol has caused suicide supposedly. The strongman died of a heart attack. People never die of a heart attack
Perhaps you would like me to find some links where alcohol killed some people. Do you need those links
Sorry Wyldfire, you don't know everything.
nuts the size of grapes
acne
liver damage, ask Arnold if you doubt this
heart damage, ask Arnold if you also doubt this
DNA damage in the sperm, ask Hulk Hogan about one of his children.
Gyno (bytches tits)
And a host of other problems too numerous to even mention.
In women:
enlargement of the cl*toris
hardening of the cl*toris
facial hair growth
masculinazation
vocal changes
And then there is the psychological addiction that DOES occur with steroids. You get addicted to the size and strength increases and your mood is elevated on it.
When you come off depression is a common occurance.
As I said it is my business to know this stuff.
Are you aware that he DID attribute his brain tumor to his massive steroid and gh usage that he used trying to get himself back in shape to play football again.
Back then there were some wonderful articles on it. He did a good thing by comming out and warning others about it. Lets not let his sacrafice go to waste. Especially with poor information circulating in gyms these days on roids.
I've heard it all.
I don't use yet
Be very very careful and work with a doctor. Have your blood pressure checked regularly. Your nuts will shrink up very drastically. You will experience periods of impotency. This can and will happen during any of the cycles first or otherwise.
I would advise against it and just go natural. It seems I've pissed off a few juicers. One thing about juicers is that they will ALWAYS deny using also.
Hulk Hogan's daughter has health problems? Ok, what is your point? Many kids have health problems. As for Arnold, if you think he is really against steroids you are retarded. He is a politician now and is doing what politicians do, which is say the right things. If it weren't for steroids Joe Weider wouldn't have brought him over to the US. So basically he would be a nobody in Austria if not for steroids.
Alot of things can cause the side effects you listed except for testicle shrinkage. You don't need big nuts to **** a girl. It's temporary anyways. Almost all pros have kids. ***** tits can be avoided with an anti es. You're supposeedly an expert yet you don't know these things.
As for women, well maybe they shouldn't be injecting testosterone in their body seeing as how men are supposed to have testosterone not them.
Lyle is not a doctor he had no degree he was just looking for something to blame for his stupidity. Check out his death certificate or whatever it will not say "Cause of death - steroids"
That retard is basically the reason roids have such a worst rep than they deserve. You don't need to warn me about anything because I obviosuly know more than you even though you are somehow labeled an expert
Of course users won't admit they use because ignorant people will just assume that they could easily look that way if they juiced. Not realizing how important training, diet and most of all genetics are. They discredit their accomplishments. Plus the ignorant people will just assume you signed your death certificate just because you did a cycle or two.
2 out of supposedly 1 million high school kids juiceing committed suicide. I don't see what the fuss is all about. Nobody under 22 should juice though ever.
MetalFortress
Master Don Juan
Fatality: "I'm right because I say I'm right and I mock people"
Try posting some hard evidence, rather than just opinion with nothing to back it up.
Try posting some hard evidence, rather than just opinion with nothing to back it up.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Firstly, Lyle Alzado abused steroids for 20 years. He used insane dosages and apparently was a party guy. Those two don't mix. There's also a rumor about him actually being a closet homo and dying of AIDS related Lymphoma, but since I don't know for sure about that I'll leave that one up in the air.
If you take steroids when you're too young, they will do irreparable damage.
If you take steroids for too long and in too high dosages, you will most likely do damage.
If you're a healthy adult male, and do a couple of moderate cycles, with all of you ancillary medications(nolva, clomid, bromacriptine etc), you most likely will NOT do any damage to yourself.
All of the current hype about steroids is nothing but a witchhunt, especially when it comes to baseball.
Almost all professional athletes, in every sport, use steroids. Be-it cycling, swimming, football, baseball, etc etc etc.
The current witchhunt going on with baseball is a farce.
As for all of these stories about teenagers killing themselves because of steroids: Bullshyt. If you actually research these kids, most of them had major psychological issues before using steroids, coupled with bad parenting. But again, blame it on the roids....
Steroids DO NOT make your penis shrink. This is the most common steroid myth. Whoever said this is an idiot and needs to shutup about steroids because you obviously have NO knowledge of steroids.
Steroids WILL cause your testicles to shrink slightly DURING your cycle due to the HPTA being supressed. What this means is that since you have so much extra test. in your blood, you testicles stop making their own, thus they shrink.
You nuts WILL grow back after your cycle. It's not a big deal. They will grow back very fast if you use something like clomid. Or they will come back naturally, but it will take a little while.
Women must be VERY careful when using steroids as even a mild anabolic like winstrol can cause them to grow facial hair and grow an enlarged ****oris.
Baldness is GENETIC. If your going to go bald anyways, steroids can make it happen faster. If you're not genetically prone to go bald, no amount of steroids will cause you to go bald.
Roid rage is largely a myth. There are probably many people in your daily lives that use steroids. You most likely have no clue(unless they are obscenely huge). Most people can use steroids and go about their daily lives like normal. True, some people use roids as an excuse to be aggressive, but then again, these are the same people that ALWAYS make problems regardless of whether they're ON or not.
Someone mentioned bytch-tits. Yes, they can happen, and very quickly too. However, it's like baldness. It will only happen if you're genetically pre-disposed. Of course anyone who is using steroids should be educated and order some Nolvadex along with their roids. Nolvadex is an anti-estrogen and will STOP bytch-tits from growing, even if you're pre-disposed.
Some steroids can cause a strain on your liver. These are ORAL steroids. This happens because in order for an oral steroid to survive it's trip from your mouth all the way to your bloodstream, they have to change it's molecular structure so it can pass through your liver without being metabolized. This causes strain on your liver. THIS is why most steroid users inject.
Of course there is a COUNTER MEASURE to this, and that is to take milk thistle, which will make your liver all happy again.
As you can see, you must be EDUCATED first before even thinking about using steroids. Most people are not educated about steroid use and make absurd comments based on what they see on TV.
And again, for the record, there are two LEGAL substances, tabacco and alcohol that cause a huge number of deaths every year. I think there are maybe a handful of cases that have linked steroids to someone's death. And of those few, most of the deceased were abusing other substances at the time such as: diuretics, recreational drugs, alcohol.
DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE POSTING MINDLESS BULLSHYT!!!
If you take steroids when you're too young, they will do irreparable damage.
If you take steroids for too long and in too high dosages, you will most likely do damage.
If you're a healthy adult male, and do a couple of moderate cycles, with all of you ancillary medications(nolva, clomid, bromacriptine etc), you most likely will NOT do any damage to yourself.
All of the current hype about steroids is nothing but a witchhunt, especially when it comes to baseball.
Almost all professional athletes, in every sport, use steroids. Be-it cycling, swimming, football, baseball, etc etc etc.
The current witchhunt going on with baseball is a farce.
As for all of these stories about teenagers killing themselves because of steroids: Bullshyt. If you actually research these kids, most of them had major psychological issues before using steroids, coupled with bad parenting. But again, blame it on the roids....
Steroids DO NOT make your penis shrink. This is the most common steroid myth. Whoever said this is an idiot and needs to shutup about steroids because you obviously have NO knowledge of steroids.
Steroids WILL cause your testicles to shrink slightly DURING your cycle due to the HPTA being supressed. What this means is that since you have so much extra test. in your blood, you testicles stop making their own, thus they shrink.
You nuts WILL grow back after your cycle. It's not a big deal. They will grow back very fast if you use something like clomid. Or they will come back naturally, but it will take a little while.
Women must be VERY careful when using steroids as even a mild anabolic like winstrol can cause them to grow facial hair and grow an enlarged ****oris.
Baldness is GENETIC. If your going to go bald anyways, steroids can make it happen faster. If you're not genetically prone to go bald, no amount of steroids will cause you to go bald.
Roid rage is largely a myth. There are probably many people in your daily lives that use steroids. You most likely have no clue(unless they are obscenely huge). Most people can use steroids and go about their daily lives like normal. True, some people use roids as an excuse to be aggressive, but then again, these are the same people that ALWAYS make problems regardless of whether they're ON or not.
Someone mentioned bytch-tits. Yes, they can happen, and very quickly too. However, it's like baldness. It will only happen if you're genetically pre-disposed. Of course anyone who is using steroids should be educated and order some Nolvadex along with their roids. Nolvadex is an anti-estrogen and will STOP bytch-tits from growing, even if you're pre-disposed.
Some steroids can cause a strain on your liver. These are ORAL steroids. This happens because in order for an oral steroid to survive it's trip from your mouth all the way to your bloodstream, they have to change it's molecular structure so it can pass through your liver without being metabolized. This causes strain on your liver. THIS is why most steroid users inject.
Of course there is a COUNTER MEASURE to this, and that is to take milk thistle, which will make your liver all happy again.
As you can see, you must be EDUCATED first before even thinking about using steroids. Most people are not educated about steroid use and make absurd comments based on what they see on TV.
And again, for the record, there are two LEGAL substances, tabacco and alcohol that cause a huge number of deaths every year. I think there are maybe a handful of cases that have linked steroids to someone's death. And of those few, most of the deceased were abusing other substances at the time such as: diuretics, recreational drugs, alcohol.
DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE POSTING MINDLESS BULLSHYT!!!
Steroid WITHDRAWL causes severe depression. Severe depression caused by taking steroids in the first place caused the suicides. If a person takes steroids it also screws up their liver, can cause cancer and cause heart attacks and strokes.
Don Juanabbe
Master Don Juan
As for steroid use, I don't know alot about it, so I can only go on the two or three individuals that I've met who have done them:
For two of them it accelerated the balding process by about ten years, and all three of them were complete f*cking arseholes temper wise. So I'll just go by my own observations.
For two of them it accelerated the balding process by about ten years, and all three of them were complete f*cking arseholes temper wise. So I'll just go by my own observations.
italiostud, it seems you've done your research. you shouldn't down play it by "it could or it might or possibly if your this or that.
I don't think anyone mentioned dycks shrinking though I did mention nuts shrinkage.
Can you honestly say that after a few cycles you can quit and walk away and never use it again.
I've been involved in the bodybuilding world for far too long and I've seen fools pissing blood into toilets. I've been to the big competition including the Olympia and backstage.
Everything that you said was on point. Good post from the supporters side. And your right as I advised, to use under the care of a doctor who has knowledge and experience in that area.
I don't think anyone mentioned dycks shrinking though I did mention nuts shrinkage.
Can you honestly say that after a few cycles you can quit and walk away and never use it again.
I've been involved in the bodybuilding world for far too long and I've seen fools pissing blood into toilets. I've been to the big competition including the Olympia and backstage.
Everything that you said was on point. Good post from the supporters side. And your right as I advised, to use under the care of a doctor who has knowledge and experience in that area.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
What did I post that was opinion? I never denied the possible side effects. There are side effects with everything. Lyla Alzado claiming he died from steroids is his opinion. People die from heart disease and cancer every day. How many of them actually used steroids?
italostud - it is so great to see that I'm not the only one around here that knows a thing or two about steroids, great post. These hypocrits ingest alcohol, junk food and maybe cigarretes and other drugs and they think they are health experts
Wyldfire - Believe it or not, not every man works out just for women. Some workout for the love of pumping iron, they love the look or they are competitive bodybuilders. Women are not the only thing on all mens minds
Also alcohol can cause every side effect you listed in the above post. Keep trying
Opinion he got from his doctor.
This is not common knowledge but Arnold uses a kidney machine and his heart operation was due to his abuse of Dynabol as well as the 2nd rupture. I know one of the people who was on that team that did the 2nd procedure.
Now for what it's worth for you juicers on this thread:
You use that shyt to over compensate for something that your lacking. It doesn't take steroid inflated muscles to get a date. What your lacking is inside your inner game and how you feel about yourself.
It doesn't matter if your short and block with a short penis. All it takes is your inner game to get women.
Not bloating yourself on steroids. Many of you have never heard of Vince Geronda one of Arnolds first trainers when he came to this country down in Los Angeles. You should read his excerts on how he views big butted bloated steroid junkies...his words.
If you would take care of your inner securites you wouldn't need to reinforce yourselves with roids to feel like big men.
I don't think any of you are competitive bodybuilders or proffessional sports athletes so your usage is purely for as they call it recreational usage.
Hog wash to cover weak insecure over blown ego's. Your letting your petty little ego's rule your lives and possible ruin your health.
Before you respond think about how it would be if your ego was normally adjusted. You wouldn't need to feel like you MUST get big or lift very heavy weights.
We both know roids is still cheating. Which is why you guys are so quick to deny it.
Sitting next to me is a woman who has this to relay to you:
"My ex boyfriend used steroids for many years. He didn't compete or anything he just liked the size increases that he got. Everytime he cycled (and I would actually inject him) his penis did get smaller. I believe that is because he couldn't get or sustain a full errection. And his attituded is better not mentioned, I hated him during those cycles, one time he almost knocked me out."
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.