"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Girl keeps asking favors...

styleman

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Examples:

1. Pick up clothes for her sister who lives abroad and courier them to her sister because the girl was at work.
2. Drop keys that she left with me.
3. Went shopping together 'Can you take my bags home and drop them to me tomorrow because my arms hurt' (She lives 2 subways stops away from me on the same line and we were going home on the subway)
4. When she's sick, asks me to bring her lunch, medicine etc.
5. 'Can you walk me home?' (not that I wouldn't do that anyway...???)
6. She's going out of town - 'Will you come with me to the airport / train station'
etc. etc. etc.

Are these bad signs???
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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DonJuan11

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styleman said:
Examples:

1. Pick up clothes for her sister who lives abroad and courier them to her sister because the girl was at work.
2. Drop keys that she left with me.
3. Went shopping together 'Can you take my bags home and drop them to me tomorrow because my arms hurt' (She lives 2 subways stops away from me on the same line and we were going home on the subway)
4. When she's sick, asks me to bring her lunch, medicine etc.
5. 'Can you walk me home?' (not that I wouldn't do that anyway...???)
6. She's going out of town - 'Will you come with me to the airport / train station'
etc. etc. etc.

Are these bad signs???
If she's not sleeping with you, yes.
 

I'm Charming

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Sounds like she's not doing you any favours, why should you be doing her any?
 

suavesuave

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I'm Charming said:
Sounds like she's not doing you any favours, why should you be doing her any?
what is wrong helping someone?
 

I'm Charming

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Nothings wrong with helping someone, although when people ask for excessive favours then they're starting to abuse your friendship really, I wouldnt go out of my way to help someone over and over again if they werent going to help my needs out at somepoint.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Next time she asks you something, stare at her and don't move till she says something. When she does, interupt with "on your knees and I'll think about it .."

Should work ^_^
 

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suavesuave said:
what is wrong helping someone?
Because, unless you enjoy wasting your life doing other's dirty work, its a pretty sad way of living.

Big difference between helping and being used.
 

TanzaniaMan

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She is probably too busy gettin the shyt f'd out of her by some DJ to do it herself, and needs an AFC like you to run all her errands for her.
 

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You should have a life on your own. Aren't you too busy for these things?!

If you want to help her, help her.

If you're too bored for it and she doesn't ask you nicley forget it!!

That would save you a lot of trobule.
 

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Are you getting any tail here? If not, you should be answering "no" when she asks questions 1-6.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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exactly. if you aren't getting any and she's doing nothing for you, then i wouldn't do anything else for her.
 
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