"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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SO here's the deal. I've been with my girl for almost a year now. But last month it got a little weird and I felt like she was becoming distant and cold towards me. Only wanted to hang out with me when we were out with our friends and never just me and her. So she finally said that she thinks that we need a break for a little while from our relationship.
This is very hard for me because I do not see how one could take a break from a relationship. Anyways last week she called me up needed some help. So I went over helped her and she kissed me and so forth. Yesterday when I called her and needed help as well she was very cold and distant.
Can anybody explain this to me? On the one hand she says she doesn't want to finish it but on the other she acts like a ***** towards me. I just feel like I've been left hanging here while she goes out has fun and I am just the fallback guy who will always be there.... What should I do?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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DonJuan_DeRosco

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It's over.

Get rid of her because sure as dammit, she'll be getting rid of you shortly. I would put money on her having another guy and you have been reduced to the 'oh djalat will do this for me' pvssy orbiter, whilst she's getting railed from another guy.

End it, walk away and NO CONTACT with her. Trust me, this will save you any grief later on.

Good luck.
 
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perseverance

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Your relationship has pretty much died my friend, I don't mean to sound harsh, but it's finished. I believe she has probably cheated on you somewhere along the line or if it isn't that she is deliberately being cold and distant to send a message to you that she doesn't want to be with you anymore.

If a girl says to me that she wants a break from the relationship, I accept her decision and give her a permanent break and end the relationship there and then. This whole "I need a break" excuse is an excuse to sleep around with new people, it's basically a license to have sex with anyone and everyone. When she has finished and is bored of no strings attached sex, she'll no doubt want the relationship with you to commence.

What should you do? You should finish with the girl, you should cut her out of your life completely. If you have on her on facebook, block her, if you have her number delete it and change your phone number if needs be. You should then rally your friends together and you go out and have fun. You will be upset, you will feel empty, you will pine for her, you will remember the old days and you will probably cry a few times. Embrace it, get it out of your system and move on with your life. As time moves along swiftly, you will recover and you will have grown from this experience.

Good luck, bro! :up:
 

gaspipe

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Shes already seeing or has an eye on another guy but is waiting for the new relationship to formalize before throwing you to the curb.

You are her backup in case things dont workout with the new guy so shes keeping you on ice.

Yes even the sweetest looking girl can be this calculating.

Like the other posters suggested just walk away and nc with her.
 

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Yup, if a girl says that it's basically a break up. She called for help because she missed you and that was it. As soon as you would have noticed something funny coming from her the best thing would have been to make yourself unavailable immediately. It's like a form of damage midigation, rather than floundering about a dead relationship further devaluing yourself. On a side note start contemplating why she lost interest, i'm sure there must be some signs you overlooked. You can grow from this. Something I feel many people overlook is the importance of going out in style because you just may be able to hit that again some day. At the end of a relationship its easy to feel very depressed and down just letting the thing end in the worst way. But if you end it quick and easy in style "ok girl it was fun while it lasted take care!" it leaves her thinking if she ever really had you to begin with. I have a very scavenger attitude towards relationships. I have limped along banging an ex that otherwise I had no interest in until I met a new girl. Having the little crutch really helped out.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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you're probably a young guy to ask this question.

its game over. tell her, with a smile, she's a stupid cvnt and walk away.
 

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Thanks for all the posts. I was thinking the same things that this is just an excuse to mess around and f* other guys. Basically I am just a backup plan for her. Since posting this I have blocked her number and FB and I am done with this girl. I was sad at first and then depressed. Then I was angry at myself. I thought maybe I did something wrong for this to happen.

But in the end I realized i did everything I possibly could, if she just wants to act like a teenager I can't stop her. I'm done. Even if she tries to contact me I'll still be polite but I am not an emotional punching bag for her no more. Thanks for the support guys!

I guess I just needed to hear it from someone else.
 

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You just got dumped. The reason is irrelevant.

Hold your head up and walk away with your dignity intact.
 

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it's over. move on

more exciting stuff will come in your life if you keep improving yourself
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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djalat said:
Even if she tries to contact me I'll still be polite but I am not an emotional punching bag for her no more. Thanks for the support guys!

I guess I just needed to hear it from someone else.
If she tries to get back in touch with you, then politely tell her to leave you alone. Make it crystal clear that you want nothing to do with her. Also you should never be anyone's emotional punching bag. As soon as she steps out of line and crosses your boundaries you pull her in line. If you give someone inch, don't be surprised if they take a mile.

Also never rely on someone to tell you what is wrong in your relationship. Your gut instinct will send out warning signs and so will your mind. Alarm bells should have been ringing the moment she went distant and you should have pulled her up on it immediately.

Hopefully the lessons learnt from this experience will put you in better stead for when you enter your next relationship.
 

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see im a lil diff. As long as its not costing me anything & i mean anything i would burn the bridge. I would spin many other plates, she wud also be one.
 
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