"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Girl is into me and wants to hang out

HALCYON

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This girl that I work with (I work in a bar/club-I am security, she is a waitress) is always telling me I'm so cute and we need to hang out, etc... I am not very used to this kind of thing considering Ive never had any real type of convo with her and know very little about her (actually don't even know her name and age, don't know if she ever even gave me her name at any point). From the time I start work till I get off we are both busy and it is extremely loud, so it is hard to get any good convo in at all. The two issues I'm having right now is 1.Will it throw things off if I ask these two questions(name and age) bluntly? 2. More importantly, what would be a good idea for "hanging out." I know almost nothing about her so I don't know where I'd take her (don't even know if she's 21, don't have to be 21 to be waitress where i work) and not sure if just having her come to my house would would be the best option.
As for a little background on me I am 23 and have never been great with women persae but have been gradually getting better and better with attracting women and now need help with the next step of where to take them, how to make it seem casual, and how to do it cheaply (I am a college student living at home with little supplemental income) Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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TheBucketOfTruth

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The first rule is not to **** where you eat. Don't mess around with girls at work.

That being said, if you don't care about your job, then proceed with caution. Since she's the one trying to get you to hang out, next time she says something you can just reply with "well, what did you have in mind?" with a sly smile (if you can't think of anything to do with her).

You could even go into the night saying how you have boundaries and that you'd be hanging out strictly as friends, but then have your actions subtly indicate the opposite. If you have the confidence you can even say "fine, I'll hang out with you, but you better not try and jump my bones." Everyone loves a challenge.

Again, this is very early on, but tread carefully. Report in with any developments should you need coaching.
 

HALCYON

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Sounds Good

Alright thanks, sounds good. I am not very concerned about my job so I think its worth it. I'll keep the thread going and see how this all unfolds.
 
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