"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
girl im with found this site
- Thread starter skeeloo
- Start date
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
frivolousz21
Master Don Juan
I guess you are agreeing with him that the good women date black men.
I guess that makes you one of the bad women seeing as how you basically said you don't like black men
Do you support trolls or are you the type that somehow thinks you are a good person for always fighting for the black man?
Smooth Player 056
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
MR_PERFECT
Senior Don Juan
I'm black and I don't know black people like that. I have known some very racist black people and it always bothered me. I've known black people to be racist for valid reasons and I've known blacks who were racist for no reason at all.
My niece had a LTR with a black man. She is beautiful, perfect body, looks like a model, working on her masters degree, high paying white collar job, has been pursued by a pro and semi-pro athlete (NBA and semi-pro football)....both of whom she rejected. Never married, no kids, always a "good girl" growing up. Very feminine.Originally posted by Fatality
I guess you are agreeing with him that the good women date black men.
I guess that makes you one of the bad women seeing as how you basically said you don't like black men
Do you support trolls or are you the type that somehow thinks you are a good person for always fighting for the black man?
The point I was making is that yes, there are plenty of good women who like black men. There are good women who don't, too.
Why do you have such a problem with white women dating or marrying black men? It's totally irrational to be bothered by that.
actually I don't have a problem with it
I just point out the fact that most white girls aren't really into black guys. Alot of people here seem to think that race doesn't matter. It definitly does. Most of the time a black guy is going to have to have that much more going for himself to get a quality white chick. Pro athletes obviously have alot going for themselves.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
.geez.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
i wouldnt mention it to the chick that saw the site. if she ever mentions it , tell her someone sent you a link and you went thinking it was porn. or whatever. just leave it at that.Originally posted by skeeloo
this whole fuking thread was ruined by guys i thought were mature enough, i appreciate all the guys that responded well. i dont think ill post any question here , 98 percent of guys here are kbj and are afcs and you can tell , theres no point .
geez.
if she comes back here and reads and replies, who cares?
she will never know if she is talking to you or not.
flyinshark
Senior Don Juan
Erm, actually, she might see this thread with big fat letters saying "girl im with found this site" . Not to mention the many replies, making it even more visible.
Anyway, i'm not dissing you, Penkitten..just felt like replying
And your advice is good though, when you tell Skeeloo to evade the question. All this assuming that skeeloo's chances with the girl are being afffected by the fact that the girl knows he might have been gaming her. If she doesnt care, then case solved...
penkitten
Master Don Juan
and if so, shes not gonna know who he is.
do you know how many women accidently find this site in the same way every day?
she may not figure any of this out .
everywomanshero
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I am doing this forum a disservice by even replying to this silly thread. I agree with the goal should be to get some pink.
I don't give a **** if the girl is Latin, Caucasion, African-Black, Asian, or an Eskimo. If she's hot, it's game on boys.
I see white men with black women, and I see black men with white women. In all cases, it ranges from attractive-ugly, ugly-attractive, attractive-attractive couples. There seems to be a lot of white guys who go for Asian/Hispanic women and a lot of black guys who go for white women. Remember, we are the catch, not the women. That is why I say the guys go for since it is our job to approach.
I would do my best to help any guy on this site improve his game on any woman. I don't give a rooster's red ass what color he/she might be.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Well skeeloo, look at it this way...if she does look at this thread all she's going to see is a bunch of dumbasses arguing over stupid sh*t. She'll think you're getting crap advice and that she can take advantage of you. She won't likely stick around or worry about what you're getting from this place and how it impacts your relationship with her. Having this happen can actually be a good thing for your situation. Or she could think you're a moron for associating with such a bunch of retards and dump you. Only time will tell...either way...you've likely learned to be more careful now...which is a good thing.Originally posted by skeeloo
this whole fuking thread was ruined by guys i thought were mature enough, i appreciate all the guys that responded well. i dont think ill post any question here , 98 percent of guys here are kbj and are afcs and you can tell , theres no point .
geez.
Dergz
Don Juan
anyways i doubt she's gonna remember the name of this site anyway, i just be careful next time with other girls, especially smart girls like this.
some other college girls are dumb anyway and dont like reading they not gonna know what this site is about:
MacDiddy
Master Don Juan
Anyway, just my thoughts here, but I think the process of damage control and qualifying yourself in the process is damaging.. If she is as smart as you make her out to be, and if she possess the same amount of intuition as you do in smelling out something NOT RIGHT then she might have not totally bought your story (ie cover-up) and just decided to play along coz its just not worth the confrontation...
I find that moving my focus onto something else and deliberately ignoring her line of questioning like I'm not interested is a good way to get out of these embarassing situations, although I don't consider it embarassing at all.. Its how you view the embarassment and the frame that you take when you are embarassed that counts. People love stirring other people up. If you show no signs of being stirred then people move on...
the lies we tell when we get caught.
i really dont know or care anymore how she views me now maybe im overanalyzing this.
but you were right though i shouldnt even have bothered to qualify my self to her.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.