"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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girl i picked up a year ago and took out once is here.

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this is funny, the girl i met in starbucks a year ago, who i thought had attraction but never replied to me, who then called me a few months later and i finally took out but then never met up for a date 2 is in this starbucks.

she didnt even bother to get dressed up for me which shows u she has no interest at all, but i thought i did well on the date. when i text her to dress up for me she never responded. i think she's just an AW or simply not interested.

either way, i called her again a couple months ago no response. im sitting here typing on the computer and she comes in, doesn't see me.. tbh i doubt she recognises me cos when we finally met up for out date it was like 6 months after.. and that was like 6 months ago. so this is the 3rd time she's seen me.

i dont even look at her or turn my head, shes next to me on a high table, i think she's looked at me a couple times but i haven't bothered to even acknowledge her. we haven't met eye contact.

basically i'm in a 'fvck u' kind of attitude. she came by to use the mains plug next to me but tactifully has sat with her back facing me. i'm not going to initiate any contact with her at all.. she doesn't exist to me. this is the attitude u should have with every girl who isn't interested in you. she's nothing.

in the past i may be all 'how can i get her? or what can i say etc' now i just dont care, and she's just another number.. treat women like how women treat men.. i'm just another guy? fine, you're just anothe girl. no big deal. there'll be more in my life before and after you.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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she doesnt exist to you, but you scoped out all her movements, how she may have looked at you, how she sat with her back facing you, all the while typing up a whole thread about her. lol
you only sound angry to me.
 
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trrush said:
she doesnt exist to you, but you scoped out all her movements, how she may have looked at you, how she sat with her back facing you, all the while typing up a whole thread about her. lol
you only sound angry to me.
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yes you're right, true im bitter about it but im a competitive person so i feel i lost in that battle, but im very aware of my surroundings and whats happening.

it's prob better to say that im not as p1ssed off about it as i would have been a year ago or in general, normally when i lose girls like this i'm really angry for weeks on end.. i just realised now i'm more relaxed than i was as i know eventually i'll be in new pick up situations new girls, that she won't matter anymore after a while.
 
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So??? Your the king. It's her loss. She's just another girl. don't pay any mind to her.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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trrush said:
she doesnt exist to you, but you scoped out all her movements, how she may have looked at you, how she sat with her back facing you, all the while typing up a whole thread about her. lol
you only sound angry to me.
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If she doesn't know that he knows she's there, then she doesn't exist. :D
 
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You seriously didn't need to make a new thread about this. I'm sorry for being so direct, but it was just completely unnecessary.

Start a pick up journal thread, and then feel free to post this kinda stuff in it.
 
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lol "shes" only another girl if there is no investment on his behalf...

CLEARLY he's invested some feelings here, he's a competitive man ;)

Let me put it this way, would you walk away from your savings account that you've been plugging for a few months?

OP, someone said something very true to me once.

You can have all the game, all the suaveness and every single trick up your sleeve. But if you can't create the initial attraction/spark, then it's all worthless.

Investing without attraction, is worthless. So she called you up a few months later, so you crossed her mind, so she was bored! the harsh reality is that initial attraction would've lured her your way, much much sooner than a few months later.

Keep switching plates until you find something you really want, create the spark by being your amazing self, and revel in the glory.
 
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Diaforetikos said:
You seriously didn't need to make a new thread about this. I'm sorry for being so direct, but it was just completely unnecessary.

Start a pick up journal thread, and then feel free to post this kinda stuff in it.
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Hah. Agreed.

And big weezy, what's up with you and the Starbucks, man? All your stories revolve around a Starbucks. You live in a small town or something?

I can't help but picture some slightly overweight man with a breathing problem spending 10 hours a day at those tiny Starbucks tables. Kinda funny.
 
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