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Girl I like is going to be my new roommate. Help!

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Hey..

Im 20years old and just recently I met a girl in bar. We were just hanging out and having good time.. I told him that im looking for a roommate and she was looking place to stay too.
Couple days ago she came again to my place to look at the apartment and she liked it.. anyway shes moving in in couple of days :)

I like her a lot and I think that she likes me too. At least we have fun to hang out. but my friend told that she might got a boyfriend.

how should I proceed?
Im dont have any real experience with woman so Im little panicky :D

Should I just try to be very good friend with her and then someday "make a move" or should I let her know somehow that im interested in relationship.


any kind of help/tips/links would me nice.
thanks.
 

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It's one of the dumbest moves you could make.

I can already tell that you're not experienced with women. Now you're living with one and trying to date her. Right now you're attracted to her. Let's see how you feel hree weeks from now, after you've heard her life story 100 times.

If you're going to be her roommate, then don't try to bang her. If you're going to try to bang her, then tell her she can't live with you.

Mixing money, and sex, and living together is an absolutely TERRIBLE idea.
 

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You need to start meeting other women. You just met this girl and you're already falling in love???
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Mikk said:
**** :D
that wasnt good news.
Well, it's a stupid idea. How could it NOT be a stupid idea? That's a better question. In what possible way could this be a good idea?

If your goal in life is to get ONE girl and have her be your girlfriend forever, then maybe this will work.

Of course if this girl doesn't like you, or if she's a terrible girlfriend, or crazy, then you're stuck with her. Because she's living with you. And now you have no privacy, and no personal life because you're stuck together.

Even if she did like you, once you live together, there's no mystery about you. She'll always know where you are. What you're doing. What you eat. When you sleep. You'll be predictable. She'll get bored. Bored = unattractive.

It's just a terrible idea. Even if you two were dating, I wouldn't recommend moving in until at least 2 years into a relationship. And you two aren't even dating yet. You're just attracted to her. And she already has a boyfriend.

Stupid idea. Once again. How could this be anything else but a stupid idea? You aren't dumb enough to think this is a good idea, right? How stupid would a person be to think this is a good idea?
 

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Speculator E said:
You need to start meeting other women. You just met this girl and you're already falling in love???
It dosent make sense to date others if I like my roommate more then random chicks.

basically its not my apartment so I can move out any time if something goes terrible wrong ;)
 

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Mantis Toboggan said:
Well, it's a stupid idea. How could it NOT be a stupid idea? That's a better question. In what possible way could this be a good idea?

If your goal in life is to get ONE girl and have her be your girlfriend forever, then maybe this will work.

Of course if this girl doesn't like you, or if she's a terrible girlfriend, or crazy, then you're stuck with her. Because she's living with you. And now you have no privacy, and no personal life because you're stuck together.

Even if she did like you, once you live together, there's no mystery about you. She'll always know where you are. What you're doing. What you eat. When you sleep. You'll be predictable. She'll get bored. Bored = unattractive.

It's just a terrible idea. Even if you two were dating, I wouldn't recommend moving in until at least 2 years into a relationship. And you two aren't even dating yet. You're just attracted to her. And she already has a boyfriend.

Stupid idea. Once again. How could this be anything else but a stupid idea? You aren't dumb enough to think this is a good idea, right? How stupid would a person be to think this is a good idea?
dude chill

edit: and yeah my goal in life is to get ONE girl and have her be my girlfriend forever.
 

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Mikk said:
It dosent make sense to date others if I like my roommate more then random chicks.
You my friend, have lots to learn.
 

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Mikk said:
dude chill

edit: and yeah my goal in life is to get ONE girl and have her be your girlfriend forever.
My apologies. I thought you wanted advice and opinions.

Next time I'll just tell you to "Tell her how you feel." and agree with everything you say.

Good luck with your endeavors, genius. :rockon:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Mikk said:
It dosent make sense to date others if I like my roommate more then random chicks.

basically its not my apartment so I can move out any time if something goes terrible wrong ;)
Sorry man, but you have no idea what you're doing.

You're going to make whatever foolish decisions you want. But if you decide not to, I'd recommend reading the DJ Bible and starting from the beginning.

You need a LOT of work.
 

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to mantis:
only advice Iv got here from you is:
DONT do it u stupid ****ing noob.

to iceberg:
I just started to read "weapons of mass seduction" :)
its a looong way to go but I got some time.
 

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Mikk said:
to mantis:
only advice Iv got here from you is:
DONT do it u stupid ****ing noob.

to iceberg:
I just started to read "weapons of mass seduction" :)
its a looong way to go but I got some time.
Well if you care enough to read the material, then maybe you care enough to stop yourself from trying to date a girl you live with.

But people like you, who have limited options with women, tend to get obsessed over one girl and go on a kamikaze mission to get her. I've been there. You act like she's the only thing you want. Like dating her is going to fill the missing piece in your life. Other girls suck. She's the only one. Well, sorry, but that's a fairy tale.

And maybe Mantis' words aren't very kind or gentle, but he's right. It's a terribly unwise decision. You can't come to a forum full of men and expect soft, gentle responses when you're on the path to doing something wrong.
 

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I'm sure the two of you will get along real s3xually while she's moaning about being constipated in the bathroom you two share and you gotta pee.. LOL
Yeah. Either the two of you can give up any idea of s3x for the next 3 months to forever or you two will fall into crazy, crazy love. Only thing that would explain this working out is genuine, if-you-find-it-call-a-scientist, rare love.

On the plus side, if she's a good cook she may just make you a sandwich.
 

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Mikk said:
Should I just try to be very good friend with her and then someday "make a move".
This almost makes me think it's a joke.
Look, you're obviously too into this girl to accept the advice of the people here. You're looking for a way to make it work and everyone here KNOWS there is no way.

She's doesn't like you like that. If she did, she wouldn't be moving in with you.
She most likely see's you as a sweet guy who can make her life more comfortable. Good friend material.

But I'm not all negative, you might be able to get her to like you.
Just avoid her as much as possible, and have a different girl over every week or so. Though some how I think that both those things may be hard for you.

You've chosen the hard way, have fun.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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oky thanks for replies.

im just going to be friends with her then.
I think shes good roomate. :)
 

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Mantis Toboggan said:
It's one of the dumbest moves you could make.

I can already tell that you're not experienced with women. Now you're living with one and trying to date her. Right now you're attracted to her. Let's see how you feel hree weeks from now, after you've heard her life story 100 times.

If you're going to be her roommate, then don't try to bang her. If you're going to try to bang her, then tell her she can't live with you.

Mixing money, and sex, and living together is an absolutely TERRIBLE idea.
This. I've read some people do silly things on this forum. But this thread has to be up there as one of the worse. Sorry OP.
 

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Dont room with a girl, seriously. I made a mistake like that once, and never ****ing again dude, never again.
 
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