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Girl I am interested in is bringing her friend to a concert with us

pvf94

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Later on in the month towards Halloween me and this girl I have meet a few times are going to a concert, and come to find out her friend is going with us.

How do you behave in this situation? At first I was bothered by it but now I see this as an opportunity to give off a good vibe and let her friend see me as a funny/attractive person. This will lead to the two of them talking about me when I'm not around and I think it is inevitable that they will talk about me when I'm not around anyhow, so I need to really be on my toes and impress her friend that I have never meet.

Another thing, her friend is not exactly attractive from what I can see. (I've seen pictures of her on myspace) So im sure she will tell the girl im interested in somewhere along the line that im "cute/hot" This is very good I think.

If I can win her friend this has to be very good right? I mean I know I am funny to most anybody, and most ug's/chubby chicks are attracted to me so this shouldn't be too hard.

Maybe I could work in a bit of jealousy as well...by kinoing/flirting with the ug.

I dunno, help me out gimme some tips for the situation. I have never meet the one girl, and the girl I am originally going with has shown signs of high interest that seem to be dwindling away....but thats beside the point, this should be a good time.


I would also like to get a kiss in before the end of the night.


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I'm not sure I understand what the goal is? Are you trying to sleep with her, become her friend, or become something like a bf?

If the goal is to simply sleep with her, you're getting in your own way (credit to Brent, DYD Advanced video). You need to get isolation. This is a bad gameplan and way too much work for anything less than a 9.5 that's a total freak in da sheet.

If you want to be her friend or boyfriend, then by all means go and have a good time. I wouldn't bother with elaborate plotlines, I would just play it by hear. You can just go with the mindset of having a great time on your own terms and she will love for it. It's (IMO) more about letting go than control.

As far as jealousy goes, I think that's a useful tool in situations where the girls interest is fading or things get kind of stale. I pulled a south american chicka who was lossing interest a few months ago by sparking jealousy (open another chicka and then my target got defense and started asking her questions and being possisive heh. Funny thing is I am pretty sure my target was a "working girl" yet I paid nothing but her coat check which she didn't even ask me to do.) but I dont try to make them jealous by hitting on their ugly friend, I am just playful with the UG friends and make them chase me a little, more playful fun than jealousy, they see the attraction but its not done in a jealousy creating way. Anyway, just my input, best wishes
 

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You're not trying to win anyone...if this is your mindset ur out. Personally if you've asked this girl to the concert and she said yes then she has to ask you if she can bring a friend, to which your reply should be no. If she announced the friend thing without asking I would cancel.
 

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window said:
You're not trying to win anyone...if this is your mindset ur out. Personally if you've asked this girl to the concert and she said yes then she has to ask you if she can bring a friend, to which your reply should be no. If she announced the friend thing without asking I would cancel.
She invited me along almost a month ago.

And I simply see it as important to win her friend because her friend will put in a good word for me without me even asking her to.
 

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Ok then, just go and have a good time, don't worry about her friend being there..dress sharp. Then if you dig her call her up and ask her out, just the two of you. If she likes you she'll accept.
 

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It doesn't sound as if this concert outing was planned as an actual date, don't treat it as one.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
It doesn't sound as if this concert outing was planned as an actual date, don't treat it as one.
And how should it be treated? Just go have fun?
 

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pvf94 said:
And how should it be treated? Just go have fun?
That's about it unless you plan on doing something that would suggest otherwise.
 

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Look man, if this girl that you're going out with already likes you, I'm sure she's told her friend good things about you. Make sure you dress well, and most of all, SMILE A LOT and talk to both of the girls, rather than just the girl you're trying to get with. Probably the reason she's bringing a friend along with her is so that she can get an outside opinion on what you're like.

This is a GREAT OPPORTUNITY for you. Plus, you're at a concert. Of course you're going to have fun.
 

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young_gun said:
Look man, if this girl that you're going out with already likes you, I'm sure she's told her friend good things about you. Make sure you dress well, and most of all, SMILE A LOT and talk to both of the girls, rather than just the girl you're trying to get with. Probably the reason she's bringing a friend along with her is so that she can get an outside opinion on what you're like.

This is a GREAT OPPORTUNITY for you. Plus, you're at a concert. Of course you're going to have fun.
Weird how that actually opened my mind quite a bit, that makes sense.

Thanks!
 

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No problem. Just make sure you act like a gentleman to both of them and soon enough they'll both be talking about how much they like you.
 

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young_gun said:
No problem. Just make sure you act like a gentleman to both of them and soon enough they'll both be talking about how much they like you.

Ill do my best, I'm lucky my strong points are people skills. :D I usually never have a problem getting strangers to warm up to me.
 
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