"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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So an update on my journey from the thread before.
Asked her out on New Years, we went to watch fireworks and back to my place for a DVD session.

When we got back, in between the movie (started for about 30mins), she let her hand down near me, so I held it, and she held back.

She started feeling emo, and I asked her whats going on, and does it have to do with some guy hurting her, she kept silence, teared and didn't say a word.
So I hugged her, and told her that it's okay, and that I was there if she wanted to say anything.

Awhile later, she teared and said she had a BF (Which I already knew beforehand). I told her I knew, and that I knew that I was better than her bf, that's why I decided to go after her.

Okay, some background on her part. Her bf was mistreating her, and wasn't there when she needed him, he's now back in his homeland for holiday and haven't called her once. He just msg'd her on MSN saying that he loved her once the other day. She emailed him asking what was going on, he hasn't replied.

I don't really know what to do now, but I told her, if she still wants to be with him then go ahead, I have no regrets. Basically, I'm saying that I ain't desperate, and that she will regret, not me.

Now, to be honest, I really want to be with this girl, it's just that I don't want to act desperate and all AFC about it. I just don't really know what to do now, she keeps telling me that she doesn't know and asked me what will happen if she really went back to her BF in the end. I just said, I'd just step back and won't do anything.

Sorry for the long post, some good advice would be much appreciated.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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That's what I thought, her BF will win.
So how do I overcome this? Be another bad boy? lol.
 
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dont mistreat her or anything, but the best way to "win her", will be to present yourself as a mystery and a challenge.
I got a girls number the other day that has a boyfriend. Well let me tell you this, if I had a girlfriend and she was giving out her number to random guys, i would be pissed. This dude doesnt have shlt on me though (he was there when i got the number, hahaahhaa). Ill pull his girl with ease. Problem is, you dont really want to get into a relationship with a girl that you stole from another guy, cause she'll leave you for someone else, just like she did with you. Toys, just toys.
 
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Yeah, that was what I was thinking. And being not desperate, is quite a challenge don't you think? It's like when she wants you, you don't give her YOU.

True about getting into a relationship I stole, but the thing is, I asked her if this happened before, she said it never happened before and won't I be more worthy if I got the girl in the end? To change her feelings about her BF is a great step.

Come on guys! More comments please, need more help on my next moves ;)
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Sounds like a crazy chick... I don't know... I've learnt not to bother with them... sure they're an easy fvck a lot of the time, but my god if you think you're gonna get away that lightly then you're mistaken, lol...

My advice... get yourself a normal chick where you don't play counsellor to her, and you don't have to worry about dealing with BS, you just have fun... there are thousands of chicks out there, you just need to put yourself out there and meet them... I mean, are you enjoying yourself listening to all her issues, holding hands and not getting laid? You can't possibly be... and if you think that you'll get laid EVENTUALLY you're going to be disappointed...
 
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