"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Girl Gives You Her Number, Only to Ignore You

HariPoter13

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bigneil said:
It stems from men having so few options and proportionally unrealistic expectations.

Louis/Copeland estimated that a successful seducer can get 1 in 10 women he likes to go on a date. Of those, 1 in 4 will have sex with him. That's only 1 in 40 women that he likes will have sex with him (2.5%). Don't expect to bat 1.000.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to bigneil again.

Finally a good post on this subject :up:
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I find many women give out their numbers just so they can rid of unwanted male attention.

If a girl gives me her number and ignores me, whatever! It's no big deal - it would have been prior to me joining this forum, however!

Somethings in life you just cannot control and sometimes things won't go your way, just brush yourself off and continue onwards.
 

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Dont let me started please, I got about 200 numbers at clubs in the last 3 months, so many that I dont even remember the faces of most of them.
I realize clubs are more of a "heat of the moment situation"yet the % is still low.

Do you know how many sex sessions I got out of it? less than 10!

Yeah exactly, I can tell for sure that getting a number at the club its pointless unlike you manage to speak with her at least 30 minutes and get the making out achievement on the sofas for many minutes.

However the hardest part is getting a date after the first meeting at the club, usually after the first date althought not easy is still less difficult than get a further contact from the club night.

As many said already, its not uncommon for girl to give numbers to get rid of guys or simply because they wanna avoid drama.

I can tell you for sure that a benchmark to know if that number is leading anywhere is the time you spent with the girl and the entusiasm she shown while giving it to you.

Those providing unrequested info are usually a safer bet althought not a sure one, girls who give you their number and their family name without being asked are usually game on while those who give you the number without asking for getting their phones ringed are simply showing open uninterest.

Now let me share a trick with you, if you really wanna gauge her interest in you while exchanging phone number just say that you wanna take a picture with her, those who refuse it for whatever excuse or hide their faces are most likely to give you nothing, while those accepting and posing with a open body language are the ones who are safer to bet in.

Take the picture if allowed and check the position of each toward the other, your gut will tell you better than I do ;)
 

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jglide123 said:
Are quality women hard to find? Absolutely! But guess what...so are quality men! I'm sure there is a Don Juan female equivalent forum out there, where women vent about the myriad problems they have with men....
All women have options, but few of those options any good.
 

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As many of you have pointed out, getting the number means NOTHING. The experienced in this forum will tell you that MOST numbers lead nowhere. I share that experience as well.

That's one reason why you shouldn't focus and obsess on # closing whenever you meet a girl.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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It's sad that hardly a decade ago getting a number did mean something. Back then if you got her number you were most likely getting a date, chicks didn't just hand them out like candy then. How quickly the game changes.
 

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TillTheEndOfTime said:
As many of you have pointed out, getting the number means NOTHING. The experienced in this forum will tell you that MOST numbers lead nowhere. I share that experience as well.

That's one reason why you shouldn't focus and obsess on # closing whenever you meet a girl.

Exactly.

I guess I was amazed that after such a great first meeting, there was no response. But you're absolutely right.
 
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