"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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GeoMan

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Sup guys,

Age: Both of us 19
She lives with her son and babydaddy (whom she claims they are not together just live together.) She used to like me in middle school but I never did until now.

So I saw her at the mall with her son(hadn't seen her in years). She greeted me. She looked good so I asked her to walk with me while I went applied at a job. Shhe agreed. Had a good convo I asked for her number and she said we should hang out. We went to the movies a week later after nonstop texting (we saw Fury, very good movie btw) but she mostly did it behind her babydaddys back. Nothing romantic happened. It really was just two friends at the movies. Never tried pulling a move because she never gave me that vibe. I figured shes not used to going out with guys now that she has a kid so i didnt push anything. (I later asked her while texting if she considered that a date and she said it was just two friends hanging out -_-)

Anyways, we continued texting throught the days. She was texting me that her BD cheated on her and now shes gonna cheat (even though she had told me they werent together). I told her that il take her on an actual date. And she totally friendzoned me saying only as frriends. So I was like whatever but I kept texting her and flirting with her lightly. By the night she was texting me extremely sexual things and how she would have sex with but she also wants to go on cute dates and stuff. We been talking on the phone everyday for hours at a time. We plan to hang out soon but honestly I kinda like her more than just a **** buddy. I know it sounds gay lol but I havent felt like this in a while. What im worried about is that she only using me to forget about her BD issues when I want more. I know im on the right track but basically I just want your guys imput on all this. Am I getting used. Can I make an actual relationship of her? Should I try?

First post by the way!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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djthiago1

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You're 19 bro. Don't get in a relationship with a woman with kids.
 

LMFAO

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By the sounds of it she's just f*** buddy material. Get to grips with that.

ALSO DON'T TAKE WOMEN OUT TO THE MOVIES ON THE FIRST DATE. EVER.
 

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LMFAO said:
By the sounds of it she's just f*** buddy material. Get to grips with that.

ALSO DON'T TAKE WOMEN OUT TO THE MOVIES ON THE FIRST DATE. EVER.
why not?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Oh man I'm no expert but there are Red Flags all over this clusterfvck of a scenario.

1. She's 19 and a single mom. That right there is a reason to bail. Playing with fire already.
2. Lives under the same roof as the baby daddy. She still fvcks him. I'd bet my left nut that she does.
3. Nonstop texting (as Mauser said...new attention source).
4. She made it clear that you were "just 2 friends hanging out". Friendzoned.
5. More nonstop texting. She's loving the attention. Loving it.
6. Claims she was cheated on. Boo hoo my ex is a bad guy. Trying to awaken that white knight inside you. Next she'll claim he was abusive too.
7. She friendzones you again by saying "just friends". Friendzoned. Not once, but twice.
8. Sexual texting after a friendzone. She's a c0ck tease.
9. She wants to go on "cute dates and stuff". Oh please. She'll let you spend money on her. Maybe even use you to get the ex jealous.
10. Talking on the phone for hours. Mistake. But she's still loving the attention.

"Am I being used?". Yes. You are being played. By a single mother who is an attention wh0re. Who still lives with (and probably still fvcks) her ex.

Should you make an attempt at a relationship with this girl? No. Not unless you like being jerked around and used. Not to mention the "ex" that still lives with her who will likely become enraged and who knows what he'll do. Should you try? No. You should walk away from the trainwreck of a girl and never look back. You're 19. You've got to be able to find another girl your age who fits the bill and doesn't have half the baggage that this one does. Good luck.
 
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You guys dont understand this girl is a dime. She gets lot of male attention. But youre right relationship is a no go. Im just gonna make her a **** buddy and cut down on the attention i give her.
 

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Post a pic of this 19 year old single mom dime piece attention wh0re.
 

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NOT A REGULAR USER. REMEMBERED TODAY I POSTED THIS IN NOVEMBER. CANT BELIEVE I FOUND THIS. READ THIS. VERY INTERESTING.

its about 6 MONTHS later and i want to share what ended up happening and how this tragic story and heartbreak concluded. i ended up ****ing her. she cheated on her babydaddy with me. she left him and kicked him out. she was caught talking on the phone with me one night and i heard there big fight. he called her a *****. she left him and her son that very night telling him SHE WAS GOING TO GO **** ME. she did. we started a relationship. she met my family. i met hers. things were amazingly perfect for the first 2 months. then hell started. her babydaddy wanted to kill me. i stopped giving her my full attention as i started working and going to school. i was very busy. so she cheated on me. she told the very day she did it while we were having sex. she cried to me and i took her back because i was completely infactuated with her. biggest mistake of my life. hell got even worst. we fought for everything after that. i dumped her atleast 10 times and took her back again and again because she would cry. i was very resentful and was very rightous with her. months pass. the fights continue except when i leave her she bounces on to new guys now. im young stupid and weak so i fight for her back. she cuts all the guys off for me and takes me back. i started working a second job. one night she goes out partying and cheats on me AGAIN. tells me every grusome detail leaves me and starts a relationship with the other man. EVERYTHING SHE DID TO HER BABYDADDY SHE DID TO ME. she mustve been talking to this guy behind my back. telling him stuff about me. using him for attention like she did with me. friendzoned him for a while like she did with me. then cheated and left just like she did to her babydaddy. LESSON LEARNED. HOLY ****. YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT EVERY SINGLE THING. I SHOULDVE LISTENED. ATLEAST I HAVE THE MEMORIES OF THE MOST AMAZING ALL NIGHT SEX OF MY LIFE. *****S I TELL YA. MY HEART IS BROKEN BUT NOW I HAVE EXPERIENCED THE TYPICAL "if she cheats with you she cheats on you." quote. MY HEART IS BROKEN BUT IT WILL HEAL AS I KNOW SHE AINT WORTH ****.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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GeoMan

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NOT A REGULAR USER. REMEMBERED TODAY I POSTED THIS IN NOVEMBER. CANT BELIEVE I FOUND THIS. READ THIS. VERY INTERESTING.

its about 6 MONTHS later and i want to share what ended up happening and how this tragic story and heartbreak concluded. i ended up ****ing her. she cheated on her babydaddy with me. she left him and kicked him out. she was caught talking on the phone with me one night and i heard there big fight. he called her a *****. she left him and her son that very night telling him SHE WAS GOING TO GO **** ME. she did. we started a relationship. she met my family. i met hers. things were amazingly perfect for the first 2 months. then hell started. her babydaddy wanted to kill me. i stopped giving her my full attention as i started working and going to school. i was very busy. so she cheated on me. she told the very day she did it while we were having sex. she cried to me and i took her back because i was completely infactuated with her. biggest mistake of my life. hell got even worst. we fought for everything after that. i dumped her atleast 10 times and took her back again and again because she would cry. i was very resentful and was very rightous with her. months pass. the fights continue except when i leave her she bounces on to new guys now. im young stupid and weak so i fight for her back. she cuts all the guys off for me and takes me back. i started working a second job. one night she goes out partying and cheats on me AGAIN. tells me every grusome detail leaves me and starts a relationship with the other man. EVERYTHING SHE DID TO HER BABYDADDY SHE DID TO ME. she mustve been talking to this guy behind my back. telling him stuff about me. using him for attention like she did with me. friendzoned him for a while like she did with me. then cheated and left just like she did to her babydaddy. LESSON LEARNED. HOLY ****. YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT EVERY SINGLE THING. I SHOULDVE LISTENED. ATLEAST I HAVE THE MEMORIES OF THE MOST AMAZING ALL NIGHT SEX OF MY LIFE. *****S I TELL YA. MY HEART IS BROKEN BUT NOW I HAVE EXPERIENCED THE TYPICAL "if she cheats with you she cheats on you." quote. MY HEART IS BROKEN BUT IT WILL HEAL AS I KNOW SHE AINT WORTH ****.
 

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Yeah...I respect you coming back and admitting where you screwed up and what actually went down. You were given some quality advice but in the end hopefully learned something from the whole ordeal.
 

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Lmfaaoooo,
I'm going to be "That guy" and say you deserved this.... Because well.... You deserved this loooool :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
 

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The mofos on this forum are seldom, wrong, homes. At least you banged the crap outta her, you'll always have that.
 

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Yeah, life with sloppy teen mom was never gonna be rosy. 19 and so dysfunctional (her). Glad you banged the crap outta her but it should have ended there.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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