"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

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Girl f*cks me on the second date, bleeds on me, then ignores me

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I had one date with a 30 y/o a couple weeks or so ago. It went great - there was definitely a connection and definitely chemistry, we had a passionate kiss before parting ways, and I had an awesome time, so I invited her over for champagne to "celebrate the start of spring break." By the way, when I say we connected, I mean that we had several "moments" where we'd just look into each others eyes and smile during lulls in the conversation (yes, romance novel kinda crap). Continuing the story.. At my place we drank and talked for a while, then started making out and getting into it. At some point we get up and I lead her to my bedroom..

-Continue escalating
-At some point I make a joke about not knowing how her dress comes off
-She says it's not coming off (I.E not having sex) till she "figures me out"
-After some joking around, laughing, sexy talk and more kissing I start going down on her
-She cums from the oral, asks me if I have a condom, I go get a condom and we start having sex

After a couple minutes she starts to sound like she having an O, but pushes me off. I look down and there's a big splash of blood on my bed. Wasn't really grossed out since I used to have sex with my ex on her period (don't judge). Apparently she wasn't supposed to have her period for another five days and says something about her lack of sex (3 and 1/2 months) causing it to come early. I was a bit surprised, but I didn't act disgusted or like it was a big deal or anything. We watch t.v for a little while afterwards and laugh our asses off at some dude calling the cop "papi" on cops, then she leaves.

So I hit her up 5 days later and guess what? Nothing. She completely ignored me. I actually texted her twice in a 3 hour period (which I NEVER do). At 1pm I said "I think you owe me a tour of your place ;) ..Plus I'm pretty sure it's my turn to come to you. Hmm.. This Saturday night?" And at 4pm I said "Or you know.. I'm not sure if you've ever been to *area* but it's a pretty cool area, and since the weather's been nice we could always head down there, grab a drink or two, and go for a walk." How does a girl go from interested enough to f*ck you, qualifying herself to you like crazy (for example "you'll never meet anyone like me"), complimenting me, and even telling me that her son isn't with her on so-and-so nights (to me this sounds like an open invitation) to ignoring you? I've been rejected A LOT so I usually wouldn't be too bothered, but like I said, we definitely genuinely connected and this situation is ridiculous.

I posted this on loveshack for sh!ts and giggles (plus sosuave was down) and the main reasons I got were..

1.) First text was too booty-callish
2.) Ashamed and embarrassed about bleeding on me
3.) Waited too long to hit her up after sex
 

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there is no way for us to know.
we can only guess.
give her a few days or a week.
if she doesn't contact you then, I'd give it one last try.
good luck.
 

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Well, perhaps she is busy. Let's see if she replies. I would keep texting her once in a while if I really liked her.
 

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Korrupt said:
So I hit her up 5 days later and guess what? Nothing.
You fvck her and then disappeared for five days? She feels that you used her for sex. Once you get the momentum going between you and a woman, you have to keep it up. Getting the momentum going after you let it stop is going to be difficult if not impossible.
 

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You fvck her and then disappeared for five days? She feels that you used her for sex. Once you get the momentum going between you and a woman, you have to keep it up. Getting the momentum going after you let it stop is going to be difficult if not impossible.
I keep reading on this forum that it's GOOD to disappear for a little while. To let her think about you. To let her come to you. Now you tell me that after sex you have to do the opposite?

One of the only three women I've connected with in my life never wants to see me again because I listened to advice on this forum. GREAT.
 

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Korrupt said:
I keep reading on this forum that it's GOOD to disappear for a little while. To let her think about you. To let her come to you. Now you tell me that after sex you have to do the opposite?

One of the only three women I've connected with in my life never wants to see me again because I listened to advice on this forum. GREAT.
The advice is correct in the vast majority on cases. This is not your average scenario is it? She probably thought that you only wanted her for sex and now after what happened you don't want her. It must have made her feel very embarrassed.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
No one ever said dissappear for 5 days lol. Way too long.
Not that arguing is going to change my outcome with this chick, but YES, THEY HAVE. I frequently see posts about how you should just not contact a girl you're dating for a week or longer.


MM92 said:
The advice is correct in the vast majority on cases. This is not your average scenario is it? She probably thought that you only wanted her for sex and now after what happened you don't want her. It must have made her feel very embarrassed.
Maybe I'm just too logical, but if I get back to her asking her out again, why would she think I used her for sex?
 

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i agree 5 days is too long AFTER you fooked her.

most people here say don't text her and message her and play aloof when you JUST GET THE NUMBER. not after you fooked her. now she will feel used.

what i would do ( if i didn't have AA and could get sex, remember to take this with a grain of salt) would be just message her a day or too after, just keep it like and quick, just to let her know that she isn't a pump and dump.

then maybe meet up at the weekend or whatever.

but hey that's just me.
 

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I am abso-f*cking-lutely stunned right now. I decided to send her the most AFC white knight text possible:

"Hey *name*, I'd like to see you again.. There's a nice place in *area* called *restaurant name* that has pretty damn good sushi. Why don't you join me for dinner there one night this week? My treat :)"

Of course I didn't expect a response at this point, but she texts me about an hour later saying:

"That sounds good Korrupt. I have been out of town all last week and will be returning tonight. Haven't forgot about you!"

She told me that she was going to Vegas at some point, but I didn't know when and also didn't know that there was no cell service in Vegas (/sarcasm).
 

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Korrupt said:
How does a girl go from interested enough to f*ck you, qualifying herself to you like crazy (for example "you'll never meet anyone like me"), complimenting me, and even telling me that her son isn't with her on so-and-so nights (to me this sounds like an open invitation) to ignoring you?
If she's no longer interested, does it matter why? You're barking up a tree that's already dead and been uprooted.

I don't think you did anything terribly wrong, aside from the millions of texts and messages you sent asking for attention. But hey, you're young. She's 30 - she knows young guys do that, and probably didn't wanna deal with it.


Korrupt said:
we definitely genuinely connected and this situation is ridiculous.
I would say that if she didn't call you back at all, that you didn't genuinely connect. That's just me though.

Not trying to break your balls, dude, but you have to realize that expectations and reality are two different things. Your expectations for whatever you did with her were FAR in advance of the reality.
 

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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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Millions of texts? Millions being two?

Pretty sure this chick is f*cking with me/gaming me anyways. Like I said, she got back to me yesterday afternoon (totally didn't expect her to) telling me that she had been out-of-town and was getting back yesterday night. I just say that I'll text her tomorrow (tomorrow being today) when she's back and we can set up our date. Text her today saying we should do Thursday night and that she can meet me at my place and I'll drive from there. Haven't heard back all day.
 

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Even if your poking the girl, your better off not even hinting at sex as a reason to get together (unless your far along down that road). She might be trying to up her value after giving it up so easy, or might think your just after @ss if you do.
 

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yuppaz said:
Even if your poking the girl, your better off not even hinting at sex as a reason to get together (unless your far along down that road). She might be trying to up her value after giving it up so easy, or might think your just after @ss if you do.
Exactly why I sent her that "nice" message about going out for sushi, which she (surprisingly given the fact that she ignored me for a full week) responded to. And my text today was just as "nice": "It's been one hell of a Tuesday lol. But anyways.. I was thinking we could have our sushi date this Thursday night. You can just meet me at my place and I'll drive from there. Sound good?" - which, like I said, she hasn't responded to.
 

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Korrupt said:
I had one date with a 30 y/o a couple weeks or so ago. It went great - there was definitely a connection and definitely chemistry, we had a passionate kiss before parting ways, and I had an awesome time, so I invited her over for champagne to "celebrate the start of spring break." By the way, when I say we connected, I mean that we had several "moments" where we'd just look into each others eyes and smile during lulls in the conversation (yes, romance novel kinda crap). Continuing the story.. At my place we drank and talked for a while, then started making out and getting into it. At some point we get up and I lead her to my bedroom..

-Continue escalating
-At some point I make a joke about not knowing how her dress comes off
-She says it's not coming off (I.E not having sex) till she "figures me out"
-After some joking around, laughing, sexy talk and more kissing I start going down on her
-She cums from the oral, asks me if I have a condom, I go get a condom and we start having sex

After a couple minutes she starts to sound like she having an O, but pushes me off. I look down and there's a big splash of blood on my bed. Wasn't really grossed out since I used to have sex with my ex on her period (don't judge). Apparently she wasn't supposed to have her period for another five days and says something about her lack of sex (3 and 1/2 months) causing it to come early. I was a bit surprised, but I didn't act disgusted or like it was a big deal or anything. We watch t.v for a little while afterwards and laugh our asses off at some dude calling the cop "papi" on cops, then she leaves.

So I hit her up 5 days later and guess what? Nothing. She completely ignored me. I actually texted her twice in a 3 hour period (which I NEVER do). At 1pm I said "I think you owe me a tour of your place ;) ..Plus I'm pretty sure it's my turn to come to you. Hmm.. This Saturday night?" And at 4pm I said "Or you know.. I'm not sure if you've ever been to *area* but it's a pretty cool area, and since the weather's been nice we could always head down there, grab a drink or two, and go for a walk." How does a girl go from interested enough to f*ck you, qualifying herself to you like crazy (for example "you'll never meet anyone like me"), complimenting me, and even telling me that her son isn't with her on so-and-so nights (to me this sounds like an open invitation) to ignoring you? I've been rejected A LOT so I usually wouldn't be too bothered, but like I said, we definitely genuinely connected and this situation is ridiculous.

I posted this on loveshack for sh!ts and giggles (plus sosuave was down) and the main reasons I got were..

1.) First text was too booty-callish
2.) Ashamed and embarrassed about bleeding on me
3.) Waited too long to hit her up after sex
i donno what this loveshack place is but they're right
 

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Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

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nightcrawler said:
i donno what this loveshack place is but they're right
I agree! Well spotted. :D
 

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Korrupt said:
Millions of texts? Millions being two?

Pretty sure this chick is f*cking with me/gaming me anyways. Like I said, she got back to me yesterday afternoon (totally didn't expect her to) telling me that she had been out-of-town and was getting back yesterday night. I just say that I'll text her tomorrow (tomorrow being today) when she's back and we can set up our date. Text her today saying we should do Thursday night and that she can meet me at my place and I'll drive from there. Haven't heard back all day.
I'm actually stumped.. She ignores you, stops ignoring you, then ignores you again. The f*ck?
 

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Korrupt said:
I had one date with a 30 y/o a couple weeks or so ago. It went great - there was definitely a connection and definitely chemistry, we had a passionate kiss before parting ways, and I had an awesome time, so I invited her over for champagne to "celebrate the start of spring break." By the way, when I say we connected, I mean that we had several "moments" where we'd just look into each others eyes and smile during lulls in the conversation (yes, romance novel kinda crap). Continuing the story.. At my place we drank and talked for a while, then started making out and getting into it. At some point we get up and I lead her to my bedroom..

-Continue escalating
-At some point I make a joke about not knowing how her dress comes off
-She says it's not coming off (I.E not having sex) till she "figures me out"
-After some joking around, laughing, sexy talk and more kissing I start going down on her
-She cums from the oral, asks me if I have a condom, I go get a condom and we start having sex

After a couple minutes she starts to sound like she having an O, but pushes me off. I look down and there's a big splash of blood on my bed. Wasn't really grossed out since I used to have sex with my ex on her period (don't judge). Apparently she wasn't supposed to have her period for another five days and says something about her lack of sex (3 and 1/2 months) causing it to come early. I was a bit surprised, but I didn't act disgusted or like it was a big deal or anything. We watch t.v for a little while afterwards and laugh our asses off at some dude calling the cop "papi" on cops, then she leaves.

So I hit her up 5 days later and guess what? Nothing. She completely ignored me. I actually texted her twice in a 3 hour period (which I NEVER do). At 1pm I said "I think you owe me a tour of your place ;) ..Plus I'm pretty sure it's my turn to come to you. Hmm.. This Saturday night?" And at 4pm I said "Or you know.. I'm not sure if you've ever been to *area* but it's a pretty cool area, and since the weather's been nice we could always head down there, grab a drink or two, and go for a walk." How does a girl go from interested enough to f*ck you, qualifying herself to you like crazy (for example "you'll never meet anyone like me"), complimenting me, and even telling me that her son isn't with her on so-and-so nights (to me this sounds like an open invitation) to ignoring you? I've been rejected A LOT so I usually wouldn't be too bothered, but like I said, we definitely genuinely connected and this situation is ridiculous.

I posted this on loveshack for sh!ts and giggles (plus sosuave was down) and the main reasons I got were..

1.) First text was too booty-callish
2.) Ashamed and embarrassed about bleeding on me
3.) Waited too long to hit her up after sex
I've had a couple of bleeders in the past, but in both cases they were younger than me..

The more important question is why do you give a fvck about some chick who has a kid?...so you had a random s!x session, your **** was covered in blood and you are wondering why she doesn't want to see you again..?

Who gives a fvck...she has baggage..get some ch!ck who has no kids.
 

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too much analysis going on in this thread. You guys should stop living in your head, and start LIVING sometime before you actually die.

To the OP, you are putting too much focus on this woman dude. Live your life, and stop worrying about minor details like:

- did I wait too long to contact her after sex?
-is she embarrassed about bleeding on me?
- was my first text too booty-callish (or whatever that is)?

Seriously dude, who cares? It doesn't matter! What only matters is what you want in life. Hit her up on your own time, and if she does not respond, keep it moving buddy, life goes on. There is one thing I know about women, if she wants you, she will respond. Don't be like those people who spend all their valuable time rationalizing about why she did not call/text back.

YOLO!!!!:rockon:
 

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