"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Girl 'defriends' me. deletes me from facebook THEN wants to start over! fo real

JonDuan

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I've been lurking this site for months but thought i'd might as well register now just because i have my own story and experiences to tell as well as want some advice on things.

Anyway this girl wanted to 'Start over' as friends again. It's a looong story but basically i lied to her about something pretty significant and she got angry and couldn't see me the same way. remember we've been only friends since i've known her (like 2 years) but she basically 'broke up with me'.

This the message she sent me on facebook (to my inbox cos she deleted me from her friends list)

Hey Josh,
It's *Michelle. I know this is completely random, but I just wanted to apologize for what happened between us. I was just really mad and basically took it out on you. And again I'm sorry for that. I understand if you don't want to have anything to do with me anymore, and are probably like 'why is she all of a sudden writing me?' But I just wanted to know if we could have a fresh start and act like this never happened? I really miss being your friend. But if not I totally understand. And again, I'm really sorry for the way I acted to you, it was wrong of me. Just wanted to let you know.
So, I hope to hear from you soon :)

-Michelle (not her actual name)

Well - i think it's just an interesting 'story'. she sent that on April 27 - well over a month ago and i haven't replied or contacted her in anyway since but not entirely intentionally - i've limited facebook contacts cos of exams and everything but now i'm free for another 2 weeks before going back to school as i've finished my exams

so i'm thinking i should just befriend her again. catch up etc. i never really wanted to stop being friends with her in the first place and i think she just overreacted.

and the relevance to this site? well i kinda did the no contact thing after she wrote her looong ass rhetoric on how she doesn't know me anymore bla bla bla doesn't want to be friends and i never replied or said anything. just had no contact whatsoever and what happens? not even 2 weeks later she writes that

Thank you sosuave :rockon:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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dj_jazzybrad

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I will be the first to tell you NOT to be friends after a break-up. In my experience, it's generally better to stay away.
 

Five To One

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you shouldnt talk to her.

My ex tryed to apologize a few days ago after telling me I was a piece of **** and to stay out of her life. All I said back was "please delete my number"


Its pretty much the same situation. Fvck her and maybe she will learn from it.
 

Captain

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Forget about her. After a break up, the only reason you should see them again for is sex, if you can remain emotionally unattached.

Also, generally disregard everything that happens on facebook/myspace/twitter and such. Real men do things face to face, or over the phone.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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TheBucketOfTruth

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Did you guys read carefully? They may have "broken up" for a bit, but that terminology is obviously misleading. He said they were just friends, this is not an ex-gf.
 

Kidd

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sounds like she's got some issues. You CAN try banging her, if you want. However if you dont want to, i see no reason to talk to her.
 

Natural Vibe

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Meh. You have nothing to lose, why not?
 

Son of anarchy

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Are you sure she is not planning any kind of cruel revenge and she needs your friendship for doing it?
Dont consider women as men,they have no idea what fair play means...and if they can make you pay 100 if u just made 10 to them,they will and with pleasure.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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