Girl copying me? Story from the common room!

[JonDuan]

I'd thought i'd share this and get your opinions cos i was a little baffled

it was... thursday i think and at lunchtime, was sitting with a good friend of mine and he'd just settled to eat some big meal (looked disgusting actually, like sick but aaaaanyway)

there's this girl in the year below (year 12) btw i'm in year 13 now the final year before university so we're the seniors, allows for getting the year 12s' really easily now if i were to try that is

anyway i've noticed her looking at me directly across the common room a couple times now out of everyone in the room for the past 2 weeks or so? maybe it means nothing but who knows, she's got a pretty face but she's thin and hasn't really got any curves but she's a solid 7.8

sorry for diverging but going BACK to what happened on the day, ok common room was semi - packed and busy as usual, dozens of people just hanging doin whatever and i'm sittin with my friend talking n having luls, with a lollipop i just decided to get out (take note this is important)

i see her look directly at me at least 3 times while im sitting with my friend and lo and behold 5 minutes later She gets out a lollipop too... out of nowhere and i'm just thinking to myself... wait wtf did she just copy me?
to put it into context, there's dozens of people in the common, at least 70+ no one with a lollipop BUT me and she just happens to have one after she looks at me with one?

i thought of the theory of people copying behaviour of someone they like, literally in this case so what do you guys think? just over analysing?

 

[jeffthechef]

It means ****. STOP USING IOI'S...THIS IS WHAT RUINS PEOPLE.

They become dependent on ioi's. They live in society's reality. You're making her the prize.

THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.

Stop using ioi's. Stop needing to know if she's interested before making a move. Stop analyzing. Live in your own reality; the reality in which you are the prize for all women. Have some damn confidence and stop fearing rejection.

Walk up to her. Get her ****ing number. All of this pre-number activity is ****.

 

[eaglez1177]

Your over analyzing.

If you have any gut feeling that she may be interested, just go up to her and start a conversation.

And aside from this situation (in which hes over analyzing), I dont really agree with your advice jeff. You cant just stop using/ignoring IOIs lol. That just sounds totally bizarre to me. To me its common sense that you need to look for IOIs to at least get an idea if someone is interested. I mean I guess you could say that part of your advice is correct, but only in the sense of cold approaches where you have no idea if someone is interested.

Regardless, if you ignored IOIs all the time and cold approached every girl, your success rate would be significantly lower than cold approaching every now and then coupled with approaching based off of IOIs.

 

[jeffthechef]

"You cant just stop using/ignoring IOIs lol. That just sounds totally bizarre to me. To me its common sense that you need to look for IOIs to at least get an idea if someone is interested. I mean I guess you could say that part of your advice is correct, but only in the sense of cold approaches where you have no idea if someone is interested.Regardless, if you ignored IOIs all the time and cold approached every girl, your success rate would be significantly lower than cold approaching every now and then coupled with approaching based off of IOIs."

YES YOU CAN. When someone begins to think that way ^, this happens:

1. They begin to think of approaches as either resulting in success or failure when in reality there is neither. One should simply think of approaching as something fun and natural. Not a mission.

2. They begin to approach less. Then, they will miss out on girls that were interested but weren't good at giving ioi's, or girls that gave ioi's that a man wouldn't have picked up on.

3. They grow more and more beta. They begin to follow and react. THEY SHOULD INITIATE, THEN react.

4. They become deterred by rejection because they try to avoid it.


A guy should approach any girl he is interested in, whether he THINKS she's interested or not. Rejection should mean **** to him. He should not keep rates of success in his mind. Approaching should be a simple piece of ****. There's an article in the DJ bible/SS hall of fame. The author of it said..

Getting girls can be summed up in a simple equation.
More girls approached=More girls

My biggest question with regards to success rates is:

What's the point of it? A previous rejection should have no effect on the next approach. The success rate would merely be an ego booster, when the ego must in fact be killed. Or, the success rate would make someone feel like a failure if it's a crappy one.

Why not eliminate the rate altogether?


Anyways, you have your way, but i prefer mine. By the way, it seems as though you and I are the only Master DJ's answering questions nowadays. I wonder where sinjester/kontrollerx/WAB went. Seems like a lot of the guys that helped me early one aren't here anymore. Gets lonely

 

[sageproduct]

You should PROBABLY just have sex with her.

In all seriousness, I think both of the posts above are putting something together. I think IOI's should be used, but not depended on. Like an absolute positive, possibility of a false negative type thing.

 

[jeffthechef]

LMFAO

**** ANY GUY WHO USES A "SYSTEM."

and "wasting time and energy"
Holy ****..you must be obese and weak if you think approaching a girl takes a lot of time and energy...an approach takes under a minute..that easy

Wow..systems..hah..necessary?

 

[jeffthechef]

LMFAO LUKE...ARE YOU A ****ING DUMBASS? YOUR READING COMPREHENSION SUCKS ASS AND **** AT THE SAME TIME.

THIS ****ING GUY IS ASKING FOR ADVICE REGARDING APPROACHING.

AND
FOR
****'S
SAKE.

THIS IS ****ING HIGH SCHOOL. YOU'RE LOOKING FOR *****, NOT YOUR ****ING FUTURE WIFE.

NO HIGH SCHOOL RELATIONSHIP IS SERIOUS. ALL THE GIRLS WHO ARE MATURE ENOUGH TO HAVE A SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP ARE MATURE ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT THEY WON'T FIND THEIR FUTURE HUSBAND.

SO LEARN TO ****ING READ LUKE. Dip****.:yes:

Like that ownage up the ass?

 

[eaglez1177]

"You cant just stop using/ignoring IOIs lol. That just sounds totally bizarre to me. To me its common sense that you need to look for IOIs to at least get an idea if someone is interested. I mean I guess you could say that part of your advice is correct, but only in the sense of cold approaches where you have no idea if someone is interested.Regardless, if you ignored IOIs all the time and cold approached every girl, your success rate would be significantly lower than cold approaching every now and then coupled with approaching based off of IOIs."

YES YOU CAN. When someone begins to think that way ^, this happens:

1. They begin to think of approaches as either resulting in success or failure when in reality there is neither. One should simply think of approaching as something fun and natural. Not a mission.

2. They begin to approach less. Then, they will miss out on girls that were interested but weren't good at giving ioi's, or girls that gave ioi's that a man wouldn't have picked up on.

3. They grow more and more beta. They begin to follow and react. THEY SHOULD INITIATE, THEN react.

4. They become deterred by rejection because they try to avoid it.


A guy should approach any girl he is interested in, whether he THINKS she's interested or not. Rejection should mean **** to him. He should not keep rates of success in his mind. Approaching should be a simple piece of ****. There's an article in the DJ bible/SS hall of fame. The author of it said..

Getting girls can be summed up in a simple equation.
More girls approached=More girls

My biggest question with regards to success rates is:

What's the point of it? A previous rejection should have no effect on the next approach. The success rate would merely be an ego booster, when the ego must in fact be killed. Or, the success rate would make someone feel like a failure if it's a crappy one.

Why not eliminate the rate altogether?


Anyways, you have your way, but i prefer mine. By the way, it seems as though you and I are the only Master DJ's answering questions nowadays. I wonder where sinjester/kontrollerx/WAB went. Seems like a lot of the guys that helped me early one aren't here anymore. Gets lonely

Hmm okay I see your point. Well said.

 

[Recon]

Did I say it saves time and energy from an approach? No I didn't. I just said you will save time and energy, I never tied it in to approaching. It is not so much a "system" as it is a guideline. If I get a girls number. I talk to her, we go out on a date. She had a low interest level all along though, I would call that a waste of time. Your argument here will be well you should be doing something that you benefit from as well no matter the girl. My point here is you are doing something with a girl, would you rather it not be one that may have something in the future. Something worthwhile for your invested time? I'm glad that you can approach at will though jeff but it seems you are in it for the next sexual encounter. Look for something more meaningful.

I believe everybody that comes to this site has three phases. First phase would be the AFC who is hooked on one girl and can't get her off his mind. Second would be the new, confident man. You would think this would be good, but it isn't. You learn all the ways to get girls. You learn you need confidence, you learn that woman are not special. This is just as bad as the AFC in my eyes. It is like that game show; where contestants run around the supermarket filling there cart with as many items as possible. That is what a new DJ is like. He has this new found power within him. So he goes around after every single attractive woman, trying to fill his proverbial cart with another girl. Both cases it makes the person look ridiculous. In the end just like the show, the food, in our case the girl, that is picked out serves no purpose its just a number at the end of the game. Third phase, is an actual "MAN". As time goes on a male learns that he no longer needs to put on the macho, confident front that comes from becoming a DJ. He is confident within himself and does not need to exert it. Also he learns that females are people as well. He learns to value an actual relationship knowing someone gives a **** about him. He is no worried about a womans games anymore because he knows what a quality woman is. He looks deeper then looks alone.

Jeff, I believe you are defiantly number 2 here. All you want to do is find the next possible hook up. No sense in weeding through them since you are just a horny kid running from girl to girl hoping this one will come in bed with you.

I see what your saying, but as Jeff said it's high school, the whole goal is to get some action not meet your wife. What your talking about is more for the General Discussion with the older guys. For now in high school, the learning needed to become "3" on your chart will not occur in four years. And read some of Jeff's posts and FR's hes definitely experienced.

 

[Ice882]

My contribution to the Luke vs. Jeff discussion:

get b1tchez. Period.

high school: America's Pvssy Pounding Boot Camp. We're not Puritans here--we need to learn to bone in the AA league that is high school before we move onto AAA ball in college, where the girls can field most of your moves but still have some weaknesses in their game that we can take advantage of. That experience in college is preparation for the majors: post-college club scene where girls are ready for most anything you throw at them.

Keeping that in mind, its important--no, VITAL--that you master AA ball in high school--otherwise, you'll be in over your head in college and and then when you move onto the majors, you'll be FVCKED, still playing A league ball in the majors.


So GET B1TCHEZ NOW!!! NOW NOW NOW!!!!!