"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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n00bPimp

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So yea there's this girl i've liked for sometime now. she's 18 and im 20. ever since we met each other 2months ago I've liked her and we're good friends. But heres the situation: The thing is, we flirt a lot on the phone and she calls me all the time, I barely call her and I play hard to get and I act like Im not interested in her that much (I follow the whole C&F approach). And I can tell she likes me a lot, so last week after some heavy flirting i decided to ask her to b my gf, to which she said "not now" but that will think about it because she has a bf (who loves her alot but she doesnt love him... or so she says). strangely enough, after i asked her out she called me like 5 times that afternoon just "cuz she was bored" and i told her i was busy or was on the other line. Anyhow, i decided to call her back the next day and told her that i changed my mind (never apologized), and that it would be better to just stay friends, when she asked (in a sad way) "why?" i said cuz its better that way, ( just acting hard to get). This seems to have worked cuz now she calls me all the time even at odd times like when shes at work or in school. Last tonight she even called me to please go over her house cuz she was missing me (she had never done this before i asked her out).
But here's wut has me confussed: When i tried to kiss her, she didnt let me, and also she acts kind of prude and its like she forgets about everything we talked on the phone when we go out. Is this logical? if she was attracted to me wouldnt she want to kiss? thanks for any input guys.
Ps. maybe its useful to let u know that she's a relationship kind of person who has only had 3 bf's and they all have been LTRs
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Search for the thread "The way of the attention wh0re", and see if you can spot any of the traits in the woman you refer to above.
 

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I don't understand why guys go after girls that have boyfriends. Did you learn your lesson yet?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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cactus3178

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Originally posted by n00bPimp
No real DJ would say such a thing.
I go after any girl I like and who is worth spending my time on.
Why can't you find your own instead of trying to front on somebody else's turf? That's b*tch sh*t. You guys who go after other people's girls remind me of a horny dog trying to hump somebody's leg because he can't control himself. Get off your ass and go find a single woman.


Anyway, review the facts that you have about this girl:

1). She has a BF
2). You asked her to be your GF, she declined
3). You tried to kiss her, she declined
4). She's a 'relationship' kind of person, as you say.
5). She's currently in a relationship.

There's a 95% chance that this girl is gaming you and you don't realize it. Do take Easy Tiger's advice and run a search for 'attention wh0re'.
 

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Holy squirrel nutz batman

Attention ***** reading going off the scale

Do a search

Kaine
 

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Originally posted by cactus3178
Why can't you find your own instead of trying to front on somebody else's turf? That's b*tch sh*t. You guys who go after other people's girls remind me of a horny dog trying to hump somebody's leg because he can't control himself. Get off your ass and go find a single woman.
I couldn't help but giggle when I read this. Cactus, have you been burned before, or are you afraid of a little competiton? Just curious...

Personally, I don't have a problem finding single girls, girls in relationships, or married girls for that matter. They always seem to make them selves 'available' with very little effort, if any, from me. Now, this doesn't mean I go banging all these women of course (well, just the cute ones, lol). If I did, I would barely have time for myself. Does that make me a horny dog trying to hump someone's leg?
 

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I did a search and she doesnt have any of the traits of an attention *****. I actually act very indifferent and uniterested so i didnt think she enjoys the attention im giving her since i give her almost none. Whats odd is that when we've talked about relationships she seems to always stick w/ the nice guys (well they were also confident, 1 of them was a restaurant manager, another was captain of the hs football team). shes had a couple of bad boys going for her but she broke it with them after the 1st week. she's a challenge, and thats why i dont care she has a bf, i figure she s agood way to test my game...if i get her i can get anyone.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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cactus3178

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Originally posted by biker_gixxer
I couldn't help but giggle when I read this. Cactus, have you been burned before, or are you afraid of a little competiton? Just curious...

Personally, I don't have a problem finding single girls, girls in relationships, or married girls for that matter. They always seem to make them selves 'available' with very little effort, if any, from me. Now, this doesn't mean I go banging all these women of course (well, just the cute ones, lol). If I did, I would barely have time for myself. Does that make me a horny dog trying to hump someone's leg?

Lol. No, never been burnt like that. I've been the cause of some trouble in years past...and I realized it's a bad thing to do. I used to hit regardless of the status of a girl's singleness.

For me, it's a morals thing. No, btw, I'm not afraid of competition, especially when it comes to game. Hell, I'd love to see some of the 'PUA's' on this board come try to hit on even my FB girl.
 

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Once a woman declines your sexual advance, move on. Why waste your time on 1 in 3 billion when she has no interest in the first place?

As far as seducing a "taken" woman, that is nothing but unscrupulous. Do what you want to do, but let me be very clear here... you had better make 100% sure the girl you are seducing is not my nor any of my friend's girlfriend or wife, because if she is you will shortly find yourself on the short end of a couple of broken kneecaps.

-Al
 

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Originally posted by cactus3178
I used to hit regardless of the status of a girl's singleness.
To bad you don't think this way anymore, we could have hung out and done some real damage, LOL.
 

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Originally posted by Albion4
you had better make 100% sure the girl you are seducing is not my nor any of my friend's girlfriend or wife, because if she is you will shortly find yourself on the short end of a couple of broken kneecaps.
Insecurities at their best..luv it.
 

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When i tried to kiss her, she didnt let me, and also she acts kind of prude and its like she forgets about everything we talked on the phone when we go out. Is this logical?
Not an attention *****? You must have searched on the wrong forum.

Attention ***** can be identified with the usual characteristics:
Has BF
Flirts a lot
Doesn't put out
Hot

And yes in my experience they respond very well to challenge

Have fun

Kaine
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Well I've been in a similar situation. Girl gives me a lot of attention (has BF who she doesnt love) and I dont give her much. We flirt a lot and after a while I ask to hang out. Basically hanging out means having sex and we both knew it. She declines. But not because she doesnt like me but because she feels guilty about cheating. We go back to flirting and talking and after playing hard to get for a few more months I ask her again and this time she breaks up with her BF and we have sex. So I say keep at it but you gotta read her right to see if shes actually interested in your or not, thats the key.
 

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It's called mass confusion Dawg. She just isn't sure who she wants more at this point, that being you or her current BF.

She likes you, but doesn't know how true you would be to her, because you have this C&F thing going on. If you can tone that down a bit and show you're there to stay, she just might end her current relationship over the next argument or two.
 

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Originally posted by biker_gixxer
To bad you don't think this way anymore, we could have hung out and done some real damage, LOL.

Sounds like fun....naw, guys, I've just dealt with the jealous BF/husband/FB one time too many. But I will tell you this: If a chick is willing to cheat on her BF with me, WTF, she's got no morals but I'm getting laid just the same.

But just for the record, bad, bad, bad.

*shakes finger*

I had this lady I know (35, she's a local store owner, no I'd never hit it) come up to me the other day in the bar and tell me how her BF (local wannabe biker, I actually 'like' the guy) got all jealous because he saw her HUG me and kiss me on the cheek a few weeks back. I guess he was just livid.

That's the kind of bullsh*t I don't miss ;)

But I will stand by my opinion that if you do it to a friend, you should probably go straight to hell.
 

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As far as seducing a "taken" woman, that is nothing but unscrupulous. Do what you want to do, but let me be very clear here... you had better make 100% sure the girl you are seducing is not my nor any of my friend's girlfriend or wife, because if she is you will shortly find yourself on the short end of a couple of broken kneecaps.
Not if I kung-fu you to the ground first.. You sound like you have possession of the chick..... Like she's your sex slave... Nobody has a right to own another human being!!!!

She's better off without you...you brute!!!!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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