"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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met this 18yo girl in starbucks a two weeks ago. played her really nicely and she showed clear signs of attraction. due to settings I tried #closing which she did not want to do.
she mentioned a guy and asked me how to tell him she really liked him.
i told her "ask him to come and watch dvd"
hb: "already did that"
me: "then he knows you like him"

ignored that from then on, continued gaming her and making her laugh and on the way out touched her belly and did not look back for her reaction. my wing told me she looked after me with glancing eyes for bout 10secs.

she gave me her name and I added her on fb the same night. she immediately added me and wrote me tons of msgs on fb until i asked her msn where we chatted for a while - very flirtatious girl.

i chatted to her on msn 3-4 times for bout 30-40mins about various very funny subjects, gave her points for funny or smart remarks. every 10mins she makes some sort of sex joke.

example:
me: I would even give you a nice good morning kiss that would make you feel happy the whole day.
hb: I would give you a nice good morning BJ.

at some point she sent me a pic of her and her apparent bf. the guy looks pretty good and seems to have good social proof around him - certainly not some afc.

anyway we've been joking about having the wildest sex together etc but she still doesn't want to give her number out. i think somehow she would feel bad if she did. although i really feel she's attracted and she actually wants to give it, just needs to find an excuse good enough.

I'm NOT interested in answers telling me about oneitis, getting other girls etc. I'm sarging regularly and also seeing other chicks. that's not the issue. i would just like to know if you've encountered similar situations and how you dealt with them. any advice on how to arrange a meetup are very welcome. maybe smth needs to be done before that?

best regards,

grandmaster
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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You could suggest meeting up anyways, at so and so place OR be upfront and straightforward. If she says no, then i would move on. I wouldn't waste any more time if she's not feeling u..no matter how interested she may "seem" as if she truly was, she would want to meet up with you.
 
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sounds like an AW. We all know what to do with them, now dont we?
 
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Girls in relationships give out false signals all the time. They'll flirt like mad with you, but thats about all it will ever be. And how do you know if she's truly attracted to you? She could just be playing because she likes the attention that you give her.... just a thought.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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What part of NO don't you understand? Is it the N or the O???

The girl isn't interested in you sexually obviously. She is interested in another male. So you did the only thing you could do which was ask for her number and she said NO.

You are stuck in your ego and just can't let it go. I think your expecting some magic routine here or magic words that will hypnotize her into giving you the digits?

Sorry kid they don't exist.

And if you resort to some punk crap of trying to down the boyfriend it will only make you look weak so don't try that lame approach.

Just chalk it to the game and next time don't waste your time on girls with boyfriends who won't give up their numbers.

She is enjoying you as a girlfriend or a entertainment monkey who skips around entertaining her. You blast out with jokes and you have become her personal court jester.

This is a prime situation of fellas not seeing the game clearly here and getting locked up on their own crap.
 
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