"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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girl at uni has a bf, what to do?

tony-montana

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so this class im in.. since friday, i was pretty quiet for about two of the days until some older woman started talking to me. then i spoke to some asian chik who i think is hot. no make up, beautiful straight hair, nice lips, nice fit body! i sat next to her and we were talking about how we hate the class and it's boring etc. then that was about it. we didn't talk much that day. the next day she was sitting next to some geeky asian guy who these other drama queen girls talk to lot (they never shut up) didn't have a chance that day - today however, i spoke to more than one person. pretty much everyone. i was a bit more open and laid back. so i was paired up with some old guy who wouldnt stop talking about jibberish. she was paired up with that geeky asian guy, grrr. back i was next to her but yeah couldn't talk then.

anyway i went back to my seat somewhere else.. then no one was near her so i got in on it. sat my ass next to her and i said: heyy did you do last nights homework. and i took it from there. she spoke alot about her work, where she lived, blah blah. she even showed me her tan line where her bra strap is.. but kinda lowerish :p i sat there and listened.. i think she liked that. we laughed a bit. but she told me she lives with her bf. some reason i get the feeling her and her bf arent the best match atm. she liked that i talked to her and listened to her. we even spoke about her body and her hair. i told her i use to work for a modelling agency (helping models, photography etc) but i think i went too far when i asked how much she weighed haha, but she laughed and said "no im not telling you that!" she started that talk though about her wanting to get more fit. i just said "what weight you need to lose!? you look fine!" shes pretty quiet too, she doesnt really talk to anyone unless spoken too. but she felt free with me. im a bit open with ppl and dont care what i say. im not afraid to say it so sometimes i got a bit freaky. like asking if i could see her hands (cause im into fashion n all that) but it didnt seem to end our conversation.

anyway, to the point... i put a piece of paper infront of her and said "write your email down" she asked why but i said "so you can have a cooler msn list with me on it" she wrote it down. she said she doesnt go on msn much. but who knows now that she might be expecting me to go on. also when we finished class up we went both to hand in our work. she went first... i noticed this though, she looked back twice at me before walking out just to make sure i saw her wave goodbye. if she didnt really like me or care she wouldn't bother right? i mean, if i was talking to a fat ugly girl in class i wouldn't of waved if my back was already facing her as i walked out.

should i even bother about her and not add her msn? am i wasting my time?

damn i type too much.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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If she has a BF, and you are chatting her up on MSN, then you are going down the LJBF hole.

Just ask her out. That's your best option in this case. If you show more passion for her than what she gets from her bf, and if she is not the complete commitment type, then she is likely to choose you.
 

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tony-montana said:
she asked why but i said "so you can have a cooler msn list with me on it" she wrote it down. she said she doesnt go on msn much.
wrong move. girls know what we want dude.

"write your number down."

why?

"i have to know where to pick u up from tomorrow evening."

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I would recommend this because she already has a bf, and you need to show her more passion than her bf can, and make your intentions clear.

Taking a chance is better than losing your sleep for several wasted days over a failed approach.
 

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so what should i do about this email then? throw it out? i can't exactly call her if she lives with her bf :S

msn is so much easier. i think we've already built interest and she knows my intention so why cant i talk to her on msn and ask her on there to hook up sometime? hate phones. but it might show im desperate eh. i hope shes online now.. waiting for me to add her. it'll make her want me more :D
 

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I didn't know she effing lives with her bf.. well then just try some sh1t on msn.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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The thing is, I personally do it different, bf or not, I pump up my value as soon as I meet someone, and I never give out my intention unless I am sure its the right time.

But since she most probably KNOWs you are interested, you cannot really play indirect.

Your best bet here is to flirt ruthlessly, be ruthless ****y, and show her that even thou you are interested, she is not YET the center of your world. Be non-needy, in short.
 

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There are like half a million single chicks at uni. Why bother with this one?
 

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cause im black and i never had an asian yet ;)

plus im not really so much into the game of chasing chicks. the only times ive ever had action is when they asked me out. this opportunity just kind of hit me in the face and thats usually the only times i chase ;/

she was pretty cold at first when i spoke to her. she just nodded and looked blankly. she doesnt talk to anyone there. she is quiet but with me she talked alot. if nothing comes of this, it's alright. i usually get over these things fast.
 

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All women are *****s. But they also are bored with attention that they constantly get from AFCs everywhere they turn. She has a BF, you won't steal her away by treating her nicer than he does. Act like you don't care at all and put her on the backburner. As soon as she experiences turbulence with him, she will contact you. That's when you tell her you'll bring her out so she can forget about things, act like you're going to mack other girls at the bar, and when you bring her home, give her a kiss. Until you get to that point, give her just enough communication so she thinks about you every day, but not enough to let her know you want her. Women are almost always instantly turned off by guys that want what they haven't had yet.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Dude tony-montana, don't even bother.

She probably showed you her tan line because she doesn't view you as a potential suitor, no offense.

Move on, women that live with their bfs will never, ever leave. Even if they do, even if you hit that 1 in a million, she's still going to live with him, and you know she won't be faithful.

Save your time and move on.
 
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