"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Girl at the Pool

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This is supposed to be some form of success story
Background: I'm currently going through some hard times being out of work and finding it difficult to find another. Anyway, partly due to my circumstances I'm not spinning any plates now, also I just got out a relationship. Anyway, I'd been wanted to go to the pool at my Apt. complex for a while now but didn't want to cos I didn't want to go there by myself.
Finally, after fighting with myself on the issue for a few days I decided to take the plunge.I met a girl who had just moved to my city and knew a few of my female social circle.

The girl: I get there and this 23 yr HB7 (Marissa) says hi and starts chatting me up, where am i from, how old am i etc. Soon another girl I assumed was her friend was asking questions too but she was with another guy( I'm not sure if they were just friends). Anyway, I ask them their names and they respond favorably(anyway, turns out they had just met Morgan too)I answer some of Marissa's questions straight forward and others I don't give her a direct answer. I felt like she was into me. Cos she kept trying to say my name right as it's a foreign name. Then she complimented me on my dreads and sort of apologized by saying it was a random thought; she also said one of my female friend was a goddess and then qualified herself to me by saynig she's not a lesbian, lol. Anyway, she mentioned having a fiance. She asked me if I came to the pool a lot (I told her the last part of the background story above) and she said she had to get my # and have me draw a pic of her as well as see my art work sometime. On our way out of the pool she takes me to her apartment to introduce me to her fiance. He came out said hi briefly and went back to what he was doing inside. She also went to get out her work craft to show me (without my asking). Anyway, I know this is lengthy but I just wanted to share this

Overview: 1) Sometimes we have to force ourselves into an uncomfortable situation and you'd be surprised
2) I think the pool is a a nice place to meet lots of hot girls
3) it's amazing what happens with a girl when you're not thinking of sex
4) So, if this girl has a fiance why is she interested in my # and hanging out again? She didn't seem unhappy and besides mentioning her fiance once she didn't really talk about him again.
5)My dilema she has a fiance and I don't want to touch a girl that's taken
6) I think at worst I can have as a social proof friend. Although I'm now entertained the thought of fvcking her but probably not cos of her status.
 

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lol, thanks Dons. I have serious oneitis? I haven't even called her. I was just curious to know what you guys think. This other girl I'm trying to hang out with won't give me a time she's available. She says she doesn't like to plan things I should just call her and see what's up? Is this another way of flaking?
 

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She wants to be friends dude. She would not of introduced you to him if she likes you romantically. Shes just being friendly. I've had girls ask for my # who weren't interested in me other then being friends.
 

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Update on the girl by the pool and the non-commital girl

The Sperminator said:
She wants to be friends dude. She would not of introduced you to him if she likes you romantically. Shes just being friendly. I've had girls ask for my # who weren't interested in me other then being friends.
And that's the thing I'm really tired of having female friends because it usually ends up becoming a one sided affair. They are unavailable when you need them as a friend and when things are going on well in their lives. When things slow down or get bad(which they may not always admit) then they wanna "see how you're doing" which eventually leads to them wanting to talk about their problems. The other thing I find annoying is that why do the taken ones keep picking me? Like I stated in my story above this girl initiated everything (not that I wouldn't have but she beat me to it). Personally, I the kind of female friends I prefer to have are the ones that I know from frequenting a certain place and all of a sudden we just start talking but hardly see each other. Anyway, an update I called this girl a few days later and she told me since she's been with her fiance she's become a homebody although I think the word she used was loser (although, I think she meant to use it as "boring") anyway, I told her we'd have to change that(by inviting her out to parties with my friends). She liked the idea (and said she'd like me and a mutual friend to hang out) but she said also said she didn't want to stop chilling at home altogether. Anyway, I kept the conversation brief and told her I had to go. I was planning on waiting for her to give me a call Should I go ahead and call her. Anyway, the girl I'm talking about her is the one by the pool Marissa. I told the one (Adria) who doesn't like to commit that I just might call her on friday when she wanted me to call her. What do you guys think?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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jafyk said:
And that's the thing I'm really tired of having female friends because it usually ends up becoming a one sided affair. They are unavailable when you need them as a friend and when things are going on well in their lives. When things slow down or get bad(which they may not always admit) then they wanna "see how you're doing" which eventually leads to them wanting to talk about their problems. The other thing I find annoying is that why do the taken ones keep picking me? Like I stated in my story above this girl initiated everything (not that I wouldn't have but she beat me to it). Personally, I the kind of female friends I prefer to have are the ones that I know from frequenting a certain place and all of a sudden we just start talking but hardly see each other. Anyway, an update I called this girl a few days later and she told me since she's been with her fiance she's become a homebody although I think the word she used was loser (although, I think she meant to use it as "boring") anyway, I told her we'd have to change that(by inviting her out to parties with my friends). She liked the idea (and said she'd like me and a mutual friend to hang out) but she said also said she didn't want to stop chilling at home altogether. Anyway, I kept the conversation brief and told her I had to go. I was planning on waiting for her to give me a call Should I go ahead and call her. Anyway, the girl I'm talking about her is the one by the pool Marissa. I told the one (Adria) who doesn't like to commit that I just might call her on friday when she wanted me to call her. What do you guys think?

Stay friendly with the girl from your apartment complex and go with the flow. Although she has a fiance you never know where their relationship is really at. (She seems happy with him currently) I'm not advocating going after girls who are engaged or married, but I will say they sometimes easier to get with than single girls if the situation is right.

As for the other chick...bwaaaaaaaaah DO NOT call her this Friday unless you want to be her #1 BEEYATCH.



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Ok, Pimp- sicle, I'ill heed your advice. Anyway, when you call a girl the first time is she supposed to call you back the next time or are you supposed to call her back?
 

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Girls like guy friends so they can complain about their bf to you and bc it makes them feel good knowing that you want them even though they would never go for you. Honestly I don't really like having female friends. Too much work for me. There cool to hang out with sometimes in groups but other than that they take up too much energy. It's like having a gf without getting anything out of it. I used to be one of those sad afc guys who would become friends with a girl and listen to her complain about her bf hoping she would come to me one day. Yeah I was pathetic. I never got her. Now and days I don't do **** with my friends who are girls. I don't do any favors for them and I sure as hell don't listen to them ***** about guys. One girl calls me up a couple of days ago and starts complaining about this guy she likes. After 5 seconds of listening I was like hey I got to go I'll call you later I never did lol. She called me like 3 times the next day I never picked up.
 

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Sperminator, isn't it weird that girls feel guys don't get them yet they want to call us and complain about other guys. I'm glad you share my sentiment that's exactly how I feel. Some of them want to act like you're their BF yet just try to touch them and they remember you're not friends. If you ask me having sex and forgetting about it is easier than just sitting there and listening to a lengthy one-sided conversation. Yet when you advice them on what to do differently they don't listen. I prefer guy friends cos you know they don't only call you when they need something, they call to hang out. When they finally need help with something it's much easier to help them.
 
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