"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Girl approaches me: How old are you? Are you single? Wanna date?

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I say yea sure. How are we supposed to do this? Am I supposed to take ur number? She says yea.


I take her number. Ask her whats the plan. She says we can have dinner or drinks. I say lets have drinks next week. Then that's that.

She leaves with the girl and 2 guys she had entered with. Now what do I do you fvcking autists?

Gonna tell me not to call or text? Gonna tell me I did some **** wrong? Was I too try hard? Explain please for me what to do.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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There was a woman in Kiev that did this sort of pickup on me. She was slender although I don't think her face was too much to get excited over. Now I guess that it was possible that she just decided that she needed to get aggressive to meet men, especially foreigner, but that there was definitely a good chance that something was amiss - at the very least she was a prostitute, and at the worst, she was part of a robbery team (i.e., get me somewhere and have a bunch of male friends rob me, perhaps at my place to steal my stuff, etc.) There is a reason that this looks fishy; cons always fail the smell test.

I also had woman pick me up at a gas station in Colorado (Denver area). I was coming back from a day at the slopes, wearing my ski pants, and this woman pumping gas next to me started chatting me up and told me that we should get together to go skiing, and gave me her number. Now this one seemed to be a little chunky, but not too bad, and her face not all that good as well. Now, she was probably not part of a robbery team (she would have chosen someone with a much nicer car than mine, LOL), but that level of aggression just seemed to indicate that she was bit unstable. And as I don't like to make plans to ski (everything depends on the weather and how I feel), I would not have taken her up on that offer, but certainly, I could have asked over to my place to bang, but I just didn't feel like it. Perhaps if I had an extended time to check her out to determine if she was truly bangable, I would have, but I tend to take the attitude that screwing something below what I would want to date is just not worth it; maybe I'm a purple-pill MGTOW, LOL.
 

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I would go on the date with her but dump her almost immediately. These chicks consider you to be lower value and most of them are crazy. Pook mentions this in his book.


3 weeks ago my best friend was in the same exactly situation as yours ( when i saw your thread i thought it was him writing it lol) . He came to me and told me how the woman approached him , i told him exactly the same thing but he had to show up on the date to see if it was worth to at least have an ONS with her .
1 week forward and he wanted me to join also his date just to see what kind of woman she was . My thoughts were confirmed and she was a manipulative psycho , so i told my friend to eject as fast as possible , as he did .
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I say yea sure. How are we supposed to do this? Am I supposed to take ur number? She says yea.


I take her number. Ask her whats the plan. She says we can have dinner or drinks. I say lets have drinks next week. Then that's that.

She leaves with the girl and 2 guys she had entered with. Now what do I do you fvcking autists?

Gonna tell me not to call or text? Gonna tell me I did some **** wrong? Was I too try hard? Explain please for me what to do.
This screams troll post but whatever.

You make a date and handle business. She's making it easy for you.
 

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This screams troll post but whatever.

You make a date and handle business. She's making it easy for you.
Well no sh*t, because she's got a hidden agenda or she's a hooker.

Had a girl come on to me heavy in the club and I cursed her ass out when I found out she was an escort looking for clients.

Her hanging with 2 other guys is a big red flag. Bring a pistol.
 

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I say yea sure. How are we supposed to do this? Am I supposed to take ur number? She says yea.


I take her number. Ask her whats the plan. She says we can have dinner or drinks. I say lets have drinks next week. Then that's that.

She leaves with the girl and 2 guys she had entered with. Now what do I do you fvcking autists?

Gonna tell me not to call or text? Gonna tell me I did some **** wrong? Was I too try hard? Explain please for me what to do.
have a couple of your friends be in the bar at another table keeping an eye on you two but don't let her know that you know those guys. make sure that they know that if they don't hear from you by the following morning they should start searching for you

meet her in a very public place that you know, and take her to a neutral place like a hotel room at a hotel you're familiar with

basically just don't let her get you into a tactically unfavorable position, if things fizzle out because you won't meet her in a shady place with shady strangers or something, then she was probably looking for a mark not a boyfriend
 

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She was with her friends, and more likely this was a dare type of thing. You got her number, call her up, report on what happened.
this is also a pretty high probability
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Well we texted. She was a bit less forward this time but thx to my friend I'll be hearing when she has time.
I am really wary about it though as my ex was a crazy soulsucking succubus who would have cannibalized my soul and this one really probably has a screw loose somewhere as well considering her approach lol. She is hot though. I think she had botox injected into her upper lip, and she's only 28 lol. Plus she works at the Douglas, like a make-up store. So wish me luck lol
 
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