"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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gifts and girls-what do they expect

joe45

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was talking to a gurl online-who said that one of her ex bf the richest one bought her a 350 fendi wallet , and when she goes shopping her other ex bfs have bought her items-not exactly sure what. this also other girl i talking to online-said her bf a painter gave her 100 dollars to spend to go shopping she said she wanted nike shoxs. i told the other girl this and shes like ah what only 100 dollars. lol
is this normal behaviour for guys to do to girls give em money to shop and buy em things or is it jsut for some.

ok guys have u ever dated or been wiht a gf were u spend and bought em stuff while shopping.i mean u guys go mall shopping to look around and she wanted this dress and u were like ah ok i buy it for u-lets say its 270 bucks-do u do it or do u say ah NO.

or something like that do u buy girls stuff while u are shopping with em. do girls even expect this from a guy they are dating.

and when do u give gifts to a girl during the time u are dating em-after the 5th date or what.... and what do u give em-not the richest guy.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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seanchai

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Before you get flamed to death...

You're going to hear it's AFC to buy presents for girls - it's not. It's only AFC if YOU are AFC and you're trying to buy her affection. If you're giving gifts just because you want to, then there's nothing wrong with it.

I think the best gift you can give a girl on the 5th date is a mind-blowing orgasm, but that's just me. It's free and it'll get you a lot more affection than a Fendi wallet.
 

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Originally posted by wowiehowie
Yes, I agree that giving her d!ck would be a terrific gift!
...it's the gift that keeps on giving!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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seanchai

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Smooth,

That's good general advice I think. It's best to lay off anything that's common (i.e. flowers, gifts) until you've established what kind of guy you are.

On the other hand, I bought a girlfriend a vibrator for a first present before we slept together, and the first thing I bought my current girlfriend was "My Secret Garden: Women's Sexual Fantasies" by Nancy Friday (nasty ass book :(). These are good gifts because you get a nice return on them.
 

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I spend around $20-$30 per gift, and this is only on conventional occaisions such as their birthdays and christmas. I'll randomly pay for a portion of their meals if we're out and I feel like it as well. I will only do this after sex.

I see no reason to spend more than this. They get the gift of being with me and that is more than enough. Men are not ATM machines. Similarly, I don't expect expensive or frequent gifts from them.

- HV
 

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If anything, they should be the one giving us gifts. :rolleyes:

I used to buy gifts for girls, but i learned this just gives the image that you are beneath them.

We are not beneath these girls. They are beneath us, and therefore no gifts should be given whatsoever unless it is their b-days or your anniversary. :eek:
 
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