"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I dont understand my gf lately. We have been seeing eachother for a couple of months now and still no action other than making out. Its like wtf, everytime i try to take things further she stops me. I know she isnt a virgin or anything so i dont know whats going on. Anyone else been with a girl like this?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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UnluckyGuy said:
I dont understand my gf lately. We have been seeing eachother for a couple of months now and still no action other than making out. Its like wtf, everytime i try to take things further she stops me. I know she isnt a virgin or anything so i dont know whats going on. Anyone else been with a girl like this?

It's time to find another chick. Don't complain to your girl about her not putting out. Just tell her it's just not workin, then cease all forms of contact with her.
 

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this is his girlfriend, he cares about her, hes not going to do that.

try talking to her about it, she probably went too fast in her last relationship so now with you she wants to take it slow. the world doesn't revolve around sosuave and the DJ bible.
 

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Hold up!!!!

Did you fuvk this girl before? If no which I'm assuming then how the hell are you too bf/gf.

Rule of thumb if you haven't laid her yet then don't even think about LTRs. She is probably getting fuvked by someone else right now. I don't even want to get into this right now because this is real sad. You're not implementing anything learnt here.

Move on...and I don't tell many people to move on, its just your case you've mad this bf/gf dynamic (The worst thing you could do) so now its going to take awhile to get laid. If you went in as a fun, high valued guy you could've fuvked her day 1.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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eminence said:
this is his girlfriend, he cares about her, hes not going to do that.

try talking to her about it, she probably went too fast in her last relationship so now with you she wants to take it slow. the world doesn't revolve around sosuave and the DJ bible.

I won't assume she with someone else, that's probably not the case. But she is getting everything she wants out of the relationship, what about him. He's scarificing something he feels is important, for her. That's not what being a man is all about. I assume he's young. Unless he's engaged to her, I'd say dump her though I'd never marry a chick I've never has sex with before.
 

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no i havent fvcked her, and i do care about her its just that it kinda is getting me down knowing she banged others guys but wont give me the chance.
 

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no i havent fvcked her, and i do care about her its just that it kinda is getting me down knowing she banged others guys but wont give me the chance.

Oh HELL NO! Dump her. She's playing you.
 

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Like my Mumma told me....

True story.

I was at my mums one night years ago all depressed.

Mum: Wussup JJ?

JJ: Probs with da *****.

Mum: Wussup.

JJ: Blah, blah, blah.

Mum: Don't sound too bad...

JJ Coz of dis **** she won't put out.

Mum: Dump the ho! Kick her to da curb!

(now I expected my Ma to be like "well a womans sexuality is very sensitive, she won' t want to engage in sexual intercourse if there are overiding problems in your relationship....)

JJ: Que?

Mum: Whats wrong with da biyatch? Not putting out! Whats wrong with YOU! You are a young man. You should be doing it ALL THE TIME! What you doing with some ho who won't put out? I ****ed all the time when I was her age. Girls are lying in bed at night touching themselves up thinking about a boy like you. Stupid little slut, whats wrong with her? Not giving it up for my boy...

JJ: Yo Ma, can I borrow your phone?

True story.

Okay, Mum doesn't speak like a gangsta rapper. But you get the point.

I love my Mum.

JJ
 

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As much as it may pain you, you need to let her go. From our perspectives, she is doing this to manipulate you, which should never happen.

It sounds drastic, but giving her the boot is your best chance of maybe waking her up and letting her run back to you with benefits. Or at worse, find someone else.

It bites, but yeah.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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make out with her and hold her down and try to take it and tell her a safe work like "bannana", some girls like that... and i like those types of girls... that might get her into it.
 

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I'm hearin dump her a lot in this thread and prob would to. But i would talk to her first if you like the chic.
The next time your makin out and she stops you. Ask her why she did that and how she feels. It might be something simple and you will havin her put out in no time. It might not be that simple. But wait till you find out wats going on in her head before you do dump her. then make your choice
 

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I wouldn't dump her before at least ASKING her about it. Why not ask her why? If its been a few months you at least deserve a handjob for your efforts.

You never know what she's going to say, so it wouldn't hurt to ask WHY she wants to take things so slow. Its not like she has some evil master plan hell bent on making your life hell. She's probably just waiting for you to bring it up because she doesn't want to bring it up herself.

That's the least you could do for her before dumping her
 

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Or you don't have to dump her, but at least find some other chic to have sex with on the side. If you kept her around for a few months and haven't bangged her, I assume you found something else you like about her if you're willing to spend all that time. Unless you have an exclusivity contract (which I hope you didn't do, without first having sex with her) then game some other girl and bang her.

This does several things. First of all if you're still in the relationship with her you won't be as focused on sex because you're getting it somewhere else. This change will be visible in her and could changer her manerism about sex because you aren't pressing the issue as much. Second, the other girl you meet might be an even better match for you and since you'll have options, you can dump the first one if you feel inclined to do such. Third, you'll have improved your game by the whole experience of gaming two girls at the same time ending in you being a stronger player.
 

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UnluckyGuy said:
I dont understand my gf lately. We have been seeing eachother for a couple of months now and still no action other than making out. Its like wtf, everytime i try to take things further she stops me. I know she isnt a virgin or anything so i dont know whats going on. Anyone else been with a girl like this?
Use the technique devised by Swinggcat called Push and Pull.

Each push gives room to pull.

Push her away, and pull her in, both emotionally, and physically (like a hug, then turn your back, the get close to her, almost kissing her, then move back again)

Doing this a few times will bring her down.

Also, this could be some LMR.

You have to treat it like LMR.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I need some more information. How long have u been w/her? Have you talked to her and asked her why? If not...why not? I have to be very close/able to talk about anything if I'm going to be in a LTR with someone. Have you guys done other sexual things? Are you what they call AFC? Are you dominant in the relationship? I'll check back to see your reply's.
 
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