"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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oh i didnt' know she was 2 1.

if she is 21 one of the requirements for me to MARRY her would be for her to live on her own, for at least 1 year. there is some **** she just needs to realize herself

otherwise you marriage is going to be a failure beucase she is comparing you to sex and the city and not real life.

i would never, ever, ever marry a woman, ****, really i wouldn't date one, that has not lived on their own for some period of time with no help from anyone. not living with a boyfriend i mean hey i lived on my own and i paid my own damn bills.

these people don't know how to shop for groceries, i remember i sent amberto the grocery store with 200 dollars one day, and she came home and had about 20 bags full of ****, yet we still didn't have anything to cook. cookies, pops and **** lol. 200 dollars worth of snacks and bull****. you can tell a person who has lived on their own by looking at their grocery basket.

these are people who think it's cool to go buy a pair of shoes and we will just pay the cable bill next time and don't tell you about it, then get mad at you when you bring it up
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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backbreaker said:
oh i didnt' know she was 2 1.

if she is 21 one of the requirements for me to MARRY her would be for her to live on her own, for at least 1 year. there is some **** she just needs to realize herself

otherwise you marriage is going to be a failure beucase she is comparing you to sex and the city and not real life.

i would never, ever, ever marry a woman, ****, really i wouldn't date one, that has not lived on their own for some period of time with no help from anyone. not living with a boyfriend i mean hey i lived on my own and i paid my own damn bills.
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This is gold.

I think this is a point that should actually be emphasized nowadays.
Only because I've been through it before... same deal, but she was older. She had never lived on her own and then we moved in together (This was years ago, pre-SoSuave). She had no clue how to operate on her own and it was painful.

And it's not just about self-realization, but about building her own life, and acknowledging personal responsibility.

At this point, I'd never let any woman move in with me into a house I bought, but if EVER considered it, she better have lived some time alone by herself.


And to the OP, stand your ground... hit eject if you must, there are plenty of other 21 year olds out there, but you also must understand why she is acting the way she is...
 

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Kailex said:
This is gold.

I think this is a point that should actually be emphasized nowadays.
Only because I've been through it before... same deal, but she was older. She had never lived on her own and then we moved in together (This was years ago, pre-SoSuave). She had no clue how to operate on her own and it was painful.

And it's not just about self-realization, but about building her own life, and acknowledging personal responsibility.

At this point, I'd never let any woman move in with me into a house I bought, but if EVER considered it, she better have lived some time alone by herself.


And to the OP, stand your ground... hit eject if you must, there are plenty of other 21 year olds out there, but you also must understand why she is acting the way she is...
ISWYDT
 

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Kailex said:
She had never lived on her own and then we moved in together (This was years ago, pre-SoSuave). She had no clue how to operate on her own and it was painful.
My experience was the exact opposite. I've lived with two women, one who never lived on her own before and one who did. The one who never lived on her own was much, much more responsible with the money and was very conscious with her money. It may be due to her parents always having the phone cut off and worrying about hydro and water being shut off.

The other one had lived on her own before and she was a nightmare. She'd come home with a bag full of 5hit: a big stack of DVDs, junk she bought that we didn't need for the house, and I gave her 5hit for spending money on junk that we hadn't discussed buying. And that's the way it continued for the next 8 years. I didn't know it at the time but when she lived on her own, her parents always bailed her out of her financial messes.

I think it has more to do with their upbringing more than anything. If their parents are conscious of money problems, then they're going to be better off at fending for themselves or assisting in their living situation with you. If they have never worried about money, they're going to flush it down the toilet just to watch it swirl round and round.
 

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Desdinova said:
My experience was the exact opposite. I've lived with two women, one who never lived on her own before and one who did. The one who never lived on her own was much, much more responsible with the money and was very conscious with her money. It may be due to her parents always having the phone cut off and worrying about hydro and water being shut off.
If this was back in the days of the patriarchy that the manosphere is always pining for, the girl would definitely not have lived on her own. You would have given her father a sheep or two, and she would come fully equipped and trained in all the domestic arts. And she'd probably be 14 years old :eek:
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Danger said:
And FAR more valuable than the 30 something reformed-sluts looking for someone to take care of them into peak ugliness.
And they probably don't know how to cook a meal or clean a floor.
 

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As more time goes by, the less I care about her to be honest. I have my hands full with everything going on right now. I think I'm better off being single.

Once I get this house done, I want to have some fun and enjoy the rest of my 20's.
 

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^--- good! Dating is an interview for marriage and she is failing.
 

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I just broke it off today. I felt like it was the best thing to do. She kept trying to guilt trip me until she realized that wasn't working. Then, she tried to make it an ultimatum type situation between me working on my house and her. That's what I had enough and just told her it would be better to split.

I definitely feel like I'm making the right decision. I didn't see anything happening with her long term. Plus, now I'll definitely be saving some more cash.
 

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I just broke it off today. I felt like it was the best thing to do. She kept trying to guilt trip me until she realized that wasn't working. Then, she tried to make it an ultimatum type situation between me working on my house and her. That's what I had enough and just told her it would be better to split.

wow. its as if she kept pushing you to give her money (a free place to live).


other than that, are there any other red flags that would make you think you should stop seeing her?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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CostaDeSol said:
wow. its as if she kept pushing you to give her money (a free place to live).


other than that, are there any other red flags that would make you think you should stop seeing her?
the main thing i can think of is she always wanted attention which obviously is a red flag. she kind of started reminding me of my ex which was a big sign that i should get out.
 

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So just a quick update...

I went 100% no contact with her after I broke it off. I haven't heard a peep from her which is great. I'm definitely over her.

I'm actually going out with another chick Tuesday night.
 

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Good for you! Happy for you buddy.

We should all remember that although feminism leads us to believe that every woman wants to be independent and can and will make it on their own, many women don't believe this (NOR do they want it)

Many women today still desire to have all their needs taken care of and live a life with not a care in the world.....bills paid, no job stresses or worries, no worries about when or where the next meal is coming from.

One of my ex's told me just that several times "In all my past relationships, I never had to worry about anything. My boyfriend took care of me"

THAT (true or not, doesn't matter) was an attempt to guilt me into doing the same, despite the fact that going into the relationship I told her that was not my role, that we both were in our 40's and both HAVE been supporting ourselves,, and that we should continue on that path. SHE AGREED. But time and a sense of entitlement has a way of changing things. We had agreed to buy a house together, 50/50 downpayment, 50/50 on the payments and 50/50 on all food and utilities and taxes. Over time, that morphed into me paying for the Downpayment, me paying the payments , me paying all utilities and taxes and she would make sure I had a hot meal when I got home.

Yeah. Right.

"I guess all my other boyfriends were different. I never had to worry about any of these things, they took care of me"

and I am thinking "Oh yeah? And if this was such a good arrangement for ALL parties, why aren't you still with them"

You did the right thing.
It's crazy man. They want their cake and to eat it too just because they have a pvssy. That **** doesn't fly with me either.
 
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