"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
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did she read you diary too? she has no right to be mad. she went snooping and INVADED your personal space by DESTROYING your right to privacy.
some women think they have the right to snoop and investigate a man. whether you think they do or not is your call. what you cannot tolerate is her holding info she had no right to over your head. women snoop to find things out and then when they actually do find things they get mad. some will snoop till they find something, anything and then be mad about it. dont put up with snooping.
some women think they have the right to snoop and investigate a man. whether you think they do or not is your call. what you cannot tolerate is her holding info she had no right to over your head. women snoop to find things out and then when they actually do find things they get mad. some will snoop till they find something, anything and then be mad about it. dont put up with snooping.
LOL sorry, but that's funny in a messed up sorta way :cuss:
Women, and to a certain extent, people in general cannot suppress their nosiness and if they find the door open, they are going in baby!
What did you write that pissed her off so much?
Dude you gotta learn the wonder of multiple sign-ins. I have my own sign-in, my son's, and a "guest" sign in. If you sign in as a guest, the browser has no record of sites you've visited. FYI, for next snoopy bytch you bring home.
Women, and to a certain extent, people in general cannot suppress their nosiness and if they find the door open, they are going in baby!
What did you write that pissed her off so much?
Dude you gotta learn the wonder of multiple sign-ins. I have my own sign-in, my son's, and a "guest" sign in. If you sign in as a guest, the browser has no record of sites you've visited. FYI, for next snoopy bytch you bring home.
This is all your fault, how did she find the website? how did she know who the user name belongs too?bigmil said:
By the way she knows your username so you made another dumb mistake by posting this about this (since she will read this). At least say hello to your girlfriend on sosuave and tell her you love her when you make your future posts lol.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Francisco d'Anconia
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Are you the one that posted threads about what you wanted her to do?bigmil said:
There is nothing to be ashamed of on this site for anyone to read.
Seriously, dude, haven’t you had girlfriends go through your sh*t looking for clues?
Almost every girl I see makes it a point to go through my wallet, glove compartment in my car, my travel bag, even my “black book”.
I gladly hand them over and have a good laugh because there is absolutely nothing in there, no pics, no notes, nothing that gives them a clue about me. Guess what, they like it, just makes the mystery better. Any personal stuff is very safely hidden away.
Learn from this. Don’t complain.
Seriously, dude, haven’t you had girlfriends go through your sh*t looking for clues?
Almost every girl I see makes it a point to go through my wallet, glove compartment in my car, my travel bag, even my “black book”.
I gladly hand them over and have a good laugh because there is absolutely nothing in there, no pics, no notes, nothing that gives them a clue about me. Guess what, they like it, just makes the mystery better. Any personal stuff is very safely hidden away.
Learn from this. Don’t complain.
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grinder,
how you react if they found your personal stuff that is locked away?
anyway women that do this snooping are just wrong. it is not ok. i dont recall doing it or hearing any of my friends doing it.
how you react if they found your personal stuff that is locked away?
anyway women that do this snooping are just wrong. it is not ok. i dont recall doing it or hearing any of my friends doing it.
My reaction would be anger at myself.drmeathead said:
I and I alone am responsible for my personal security and privacy.
When you are playing the game of being mysterious with women it will invite their curiosity and they will want to snoop.
I have fun with it.
BTW: If you don’t have anything to hide its way easier to be secure
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Wanting to snoop and doing it are two different things. Respect for your boundaries and personal stuff should take precedence. Having no respect for either of those should be a major red flag. If she would ask to see something that is different. Again why do it? Why go digging?
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
you know, i was thinkign abou tthis.
what is it about the snooping that is so upsetting. i dont think its the actual snooping. i mean, lets be honest, most people either 1) would snoop if they could or 2) even if they dont snoop would still feel an overwhelming urge to snoop.
i mean, curiosity is normal. i gotta be honest, although i have never snooped, i cant honestly that the urge to do so hasnt been highly strong at various times.
the only reason i dont snoop is that i trust my instincts. I trust them so much that when my spidey senses are going on all the time i just walk away. i dont worry about what was actually going on - all i know is that im behaving reasonable and the realationship is going south and my spidey senses are buzzing - so i walk.
but back to the snooping. i think whats really at the core of this is power. we hate snooping when its done to us because it upsets the balance of power. we also have the desire to snoop for the same reason.
she now has seen parts of you that you didnt want to her to see. she has seen more of your cards than you have seen of hers. she knows it and you know it. on a psychological level she has more power than you now.
likewise, the desire to snoop is about getting the edge on your other. its about catching a glimpse of who they are that they dont want to show you. its about seeing their cards and having that extra insight that makes it easier for you to outsmart them in an argument, or more easily manipulate them to do what you want.
the best thing to do if someone snoops on you like in this scenario is to blow it off. like with this woman, id have said 'look, those are my thoughts and im entitled to them. how dare you get upset with me for that. if you're looking for some robot who doesnt h ave normal human thoughts and emotions then go get one. but don't you ever raise your voice at me again when ive done nothing wrong. and you should be ashamed of yourself for even trying to make this look like ive done anything wrong."
btw, if she foudn this site AND she knows your nick, why on earth would you make a post about it. dont you think shes going to be reading this from her home computer?
what is it about the snooping that is so upsetting. i dont think its the actual snooping. i mean, lets be honest, most people either 1) would snoop if they could or 2) even if they dont snoop would still feel an overwhelming urge to snoop.
i mean, curiosity is normal. i gotta be honest, although i have never snooped, i cant honestly that the urge to do so hasnt been highly strong at various times.
the only reason i dont snoop is that i trust my instincts. I trust them so much that when my spidey senses are going on all the time i just walk away. i dont worry about what was actually going on - all i know is that im behaving reasonable and the realationship is going south and my spidey senses are buzzing - so i walk.
but back to the snooping. i think whats really at the core of this is power. we hate snooping when its done to us because it upsets the balance of power. we also have the desire to snoop for the same reason.
she now has seen parts of you that you didnt want to her to see. she has seen more of your cards than you have seen of hers. she knows it and you know it. on a psychological level she has more power than you now.
likewise, the desire to snoop is about getting the edge on your other. its about catching a glimpse of who they are that they dont want to show you. its about seeing their cards and having that extra insight that makes it easier for you to outsmart them in an argument, or more easily manipulate them to do what you want.
the best thing to do if someone snoops on you like in this scenario is to blow it off. like with this woman, id have said 'look, those are my thoughts and im entitled to them. how dare you get upset with me for that. if you're looking for some robot who doesnt h ave normal human thoughts and emotions then go get one. but don't you ever raise your voice at me again when ive done nothing wrong. and you should be ashamed of yourself for even trying to make this look like ive done anything wrong."
btw, if she foudn this site AND she knows your nick, why on earth would you make a post about it. dont you think shes going to be reading this from her home computer?
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the disrespect for the boundaries is wrong. respect should be a two way street. man, you dont go rooting through her stuff and she should have the same respect. women think it is acceptable for them to do it because they are women (giggle giggle). they pull **** like that, excuse it on their gender, then demand to be treated as equals.
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This was just too comical NOT to comment on....
RE: THIS PARTICULAR SITE. Tell her that she reads Glamor and Cosmo, and they have huge "advice" sections for women, so why can't you read similar content online? There's no real difference between the things we discuss her and the things written in Glamor Vogue Shape or any other woman's mag.
RE: SNOOPING. Women snoop. Count on it. Some other poster said that none of his personal information is accessible to women: I do the opposite, I "hide" all my personal information "in plain sight". I wear it all on my sleeve. It's all out there. There are a bazillion pictures, and notes from other women detailing our exploits together, and love letters, and birthday cards and presents and art and videos and whatever else you can imagine.
And women EAT IT UP. You know why? Because it PROVES to them that I am who I say I am. It is one huge DHV and demonstration of congruency.
Plus, they see all these photos of hot women I've banged, and it sets the jealousy plotline going. Women are constantly aware of what they have to measure up to, both in the looks department and the fun / intelligence / empathy / morality departments. Keeps them on their toes so I don't have to.
Finally, it really works as a conveyor of dominance. For most girls, it is the biggest passive display of "alpha" qualities (i.e., 'this guy gets with a lot of women') that they have ever encountered.
It's just how I choose to live my life, 99% out in the open.
The 1% of things that I do keep secret are kept only in my head. Anywhere else and the girls can get to them.
RE: THIS PARTICULAR SITE. Tell her that she reads Glamor and Cosmo, and they have huge "advice" sections for women, so why can't you read similar content online? There's no real difference between the things we discuss her and the things written in Glamor Vogue Shape or any other woman's mag.
RE: SNOOPING. Women snoop. Count on it. Some other poster said that none of his personal information is accessible to women: I do the opposite, I "hide" all my personal information "in plain sight". I wear it all on my sleeve. It's all out there. There are a bazillion pictures, and notes from other women detailing our exploits together, and love letters, and birthday cards and presents and art and videos and whatever else you can imagine.
And women EAT IT UP. You know why? Because it PROVES to them that I am who I say I am. It is one huge DHV and demonstration of congruency.
Plus, they see all these photos of hot women I've banged, and it sets the jealousy plotline going. Women are constantly aware of what they have to measure up to, both in the looks department and the fun / intelligence / empathy / morality departments. Keeps them on their toes so I don't have to.
Finally, it really works as a conveyor of dominance. For most girls, it is the biggest passive display of "alpha" qualities (i.e., 'this guy gets with a lot of women') that they have ever encountered.
It's just how I choose to live my life, 99% out in the open.
The 1% of things that I do keep secret are kept only in my head. Anywhere else and the girls can get to them.
Tell her to get an account we want to know all the big secrets you have lol.bigmil said:
Question:
How did she find the site?
How does she know its you thats posting?
Is that message a cry for help to her?
She wont dump you, dont worry.
Francisco d'Anconia
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:crackup: "You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Victory Unlimited
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From the Secret Files of Victory Unlimited:
Men, whenever you are consistently engaged with a POSSIBLE enemy (see----the woman you are dating to see if she's LTR or Marriage worthy), ALWAYS deploy The Victory Unlimited Strategic Identity Defense Initiatives. And what ARE the V.U.S.I.D. Initiatives????
Quite simply, do NOT allow a woman to use your computer. But if this is NOT something you can avoid, do these three things:
1. Do an internet search and download a FREE HISTORY ERASER for your computer. You can program this tool to erase all your internet activity automatically everytime you power off your computer.
2. Keep all your favorite sites stored on your computer in a Word Document rather than in your computer's Internet Provider's Favorites section.. Then simply access those sites by "clicking" on the hyperlinks in those word documents. And of course, name it something chick-unfriendly like "NFL Articles". lol
3. Last but not least, if your babe has unsupervised access to your computer, NEVER set your user name to the "remember me" option on the Sosuave Website. That way, even if she does stumble across the address of this HBN (HOME BOY NETWORK), she will be unable to personally link YOU to any posts, opinons, or rants. This, soldiers, will give you PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY.
And hey, it works for the Government, so why shouldn't it work for YOU too? LOL
So you have your orders, men. For the good of your country, for the good of the ongoing mission of the Sosuave Army, and for the good of saving YOUR OWN ASS-----implement The Victory Unlimited Strategic Identity Defense Initiatives TODAY!!!!!!
Or...if all else fails, try to at least find a chick whose NOT constantly auditioning for the lead role on C.S.I...
March on.
Men, whenever you are consistently engaged with a POSSIBLE enemy (see----the woman you are dating to see if she's LTR or Marriage worthy), ALWAYS deploy The Victory Unlimited Strategic Identity Defense Initiatives. And what ARE the V.U.S.I.D. Initiatives????
Quite simply, do NOT allow a woman to use your computer. But if this is NOT something you can avoid, do these three things:
1. Do an internet search and download a FREE HISTORY ERASER for your computer. You can program this tool to erase all your internet activity automatically everytime you power off your computer.
2. Keep all your favorite sites stored on your computer in a Word Document rather than in your computer's Internet Provider's Favorites section.. Then simply access those sites by "clicking" on the hyperlinks in those word documents. And of course, name it something chick-unfriendly like "NFL Articles". lol
3. Last but not least, if your babe has unsupervised access to your computer, NEVER set your user name to the "remember me" option on the Sosuave Website. That way, even if she does stumble across the address of this HBN (HOME BOY NETWORK), she will be unable to personally link YOU to any posts, opinons, or rants. This, soldiers, will give you PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY.
And hey, it works for the Government, so why shouldn't it work for YOU too? LOL
So you have your orders, men. For the good of your country, for the good of the ongoing mission of the Sosuave Army, and for the good of saving YOUR OWN ASS-----implement The Victory Unlimited Strategic Identity Defense Initiatives TODAY!!!!!!
Or...if all else fails, try to at least find a chick whose NOT constantly auditioning for the lead role on C.S.I...
March on.
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tell her you will do what you want. you kept her anonymous and she should relax because no one cares about her enough to think twice about her and your issues anyway.
Yup, no need to hide much of anything. I have hundreds of party pics of me with dozens of different women. Why would I care if a chick found them on my computer? It's only gonna make her want me more. I don't exactly flash them in front of anyone, but it's funny to see a chicks reaction when she asks to see the pics from a few weeks ago (with her in them) and on the way through she sees pics of me with other women, especially if they are hot!thirtyplus said:
As for all the other stuff.....I keep things in boxes, and if they wanna dig through anything I have saved, more power to them.
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while there is nothing wrong with getting a picture taken or keeping pictures...BE CAREFUL of an insecure, jealous, or a covertly disloyal woman in this situation. they will jump all over you and accuse you of all kinds of stupid ****. my ex did, justified it with her ex bf made her unable to trust, and thus i walked on egg shells out of pity. not a good place to be.
She is going to dump you because you want to be a DJ (e.g. self improve yourself to be a better man)? Because you want to hold on your masculinity?bigmil said:
I mean, it is not as you were trying to hook up with other women. Which is clearly NOT the purspose of this forum. The purpose of this forum is self improvement in order to make the right choices. Maybe she is concerned that she might not be the right choice.
If she wants to dump you...let her do it. I find it very rude to INTENTIONALLY dig into people's personal stuff WITHOUT any reasons. Here is the thing...whoever search for things...will always find something. She was looking because she wanted to find something. She did. If she is angry...so be it.
You did NOTHING wrong. You post in a MEN's forums...no different than watching Oprah or reading Cosmo for a woman.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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