You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
This.Danger said:She had sex with him because she wanted to have sex with him. She didn't give two $hits about your thoughts on the matter. She still doesn't care, aside from what it may cost her with you.
Pretty true post brother. Like you said unless he was badgering her telling OP was so risky on her part as it could of meant getting dumped, therefore either setting up an escape.speed dawg said:There's a bigger issue here than just her having another d1ck inside her. As bad as it sounds, that shouldn't even bother you. You weren't exclusive, so who cares? I banged other girls while I was dating my wife before we were exclusive, so what?
The BIG problem is, why did she tell you about it? If she was into you, she'd have kept that sh1t secret and hidden away forever. And girls are capable of keeping their mouths shut when it bodes well for them to do so.
So now you're feeling disrespected, and you should. Not because you shared a pvssy, but because your girl doesn't have high enough IL in you to not risk losing you, by telling you something that could do nothing but cause problems. Seems to me like she's setting up her escape. Unless you're constantly badgering her about it, and in either case it's obvious you supplicating to her and have one-itis.
My advice....pull back and up your game. You're about to lose this one. Treading dangerously close to IL level that's nearing the point of no return.
Burn this into your memory.Darth said:Not 50 years ago a girl who had sex at ALL before getting married was known as loose or easy or a "chippy" and socially ostracized.
And here this girl has sex with a guy as she is dating another guy, just to "make sure" she has no "feelings" for him?
How have things gotten this fvcking bad?
Stupid baby boomers ruined everything.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
This is one of the most ridiculous excuses to justify having sex with an ex that I have heard lately. I am willing to bet this chick has you classified in the "ehh... " category. In other words, she has you around until something better rolls around. If she's having sex with other dudes before you are in relationship; what do you think she'll do when you are? This was only 3 days before you two became official.Gears of Led Zep said:She admitted to me tonight that she had sex with her ex about 3 days before we became "exclusive" just to "make sure she had no more feelings for him".
What should I do? Forgive her or dump her?
The desire always comes first, then the rationalization. The rationalization is usually b.s. Especially when it comes to a lying, cheating woman.Let's break this down to end the confusion. This is how to translate what a woman is really saying when she tries to use b.s. rationalizations to justify her bad behavior. We'll start with your scenario.Gears of Led Zep said:She admitted to me tonight that she had sex with her ex about 3 days before we became "exclusive" just to "make sure she had no more feelings for him".
If you believe this little tale then I have some beach front property in the middle of Nevada to sell you.Gears of Led Zep said:She admitted to me tonight that she had sex with her ex about 3 days before we became "exclusive" just to "make sure she had no more feelings for him".
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Personally, I don't mind committing as a leftover if sheDanger said:Careful now.
While I agree that we shouldn't always expect high interest right away, we should be absolutely certain they are not choosing you after they had their fun with the others, also known as "settling".
It is no mistake that women choose to "fvk the bad boy, marry the beta". Don't be the one that commits to leftovers. But that should not keep you from fvking her when it is your turn.
Danger I see the point but you could argue we all arent Ferraris, and in the end aren't you trying to move things along? I know the "feeling good" emotion isn't there when she didn't pick you initially, but unfortunately we are not in a world of feeling good, we are in the world of getting things done.Danger said:I used to think that way, until I realized that when I am the one commiting to them in this situation, I am the one who is limiting my options so that she can feel the security of "landing a guy".
Fair enough, that's why you get her to sign a piece of paper saying "if I cheat or of the like, its divorce and I get nothing."When you are not a woman's first choice, it is perfectly logical that she will be more likely to cheat on you or leave you. She is already operating from a medium interest level at best and she thirsts hungrily for a higher value man such as she experienced before.
I see the points here, but don't think the mans value is as high as you may think when he gets older. Women still can pull easy upto about 40 if they look ok.Combine that with the knowledge of a man who makes the right decisions in his life should by able to pull ever increasing quality of tail as he approaches his maximum Sexual Market Value (whil hers continues to decrease), and the strongest conclusion is that commiting to a woman in this scenario is ill-advised.
Not only is her value dropping while yours is rising (thus you are locking yourself in to less than you can achieve), but her interest level was never altogether high to begin with, and suddenly you are taking a huge risk in commiting to someone whose value you are nearly certainly beginning to surpass.