“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Getting women to break up with you

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So you're an a$$hole if you string a girl along telling her that you're interested in a serious long term relationship when all you want is some short term play right? You cause her a lot of heartache and pain because you deceived her.

But what if you make her think it was her idea to break up with you? I've tried this experiment for a while now and for the most part, it works quite well. Basically, you just turn into a huge chump when you've had enough and she'll very quickly dump your a$$. For me, that's pretty easy because it's just a matter of reverting to my old ways.

Why would you do this? A number of reasons. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the ONS thing. It's always awkward and weird to fvck a stranger you only just met. Also, I enjoy the honey moon stages of relationships....that stage where you just have lots of fun, she works really hard to impress you and of course, you get it on like a couple of wild rabbits.

At this point in life, I'm not looking for a long term relationship. But I do enjoy being in the early stages of a relationship. This is a great way to have my cake and eat it too. The only hard part is that you have to swallow your ego and make her believe that she "won" the breakup. You have to pretend that you're devastated by her breaking up with you.

But if you do it right, you have your fun and then let her go, making her think it was her idea. You're not a douche for pumping and dumping her and if anything, she leaves with a nice ego boost. You just move on to the next one you have lined up.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I remember there was this girl named amber I was spinning back when I was 21. It got to a point, I was doing everything in my power, to make her NOT call me back lol. She was irratating. But the sex was good, but she was very annoying to me. I had ohter plates. I would cancel dates, i would show up at 3am, have sex and leave lol, one time i flat out left a date with her beucase another girl called that i had been wanting to get with for a while. i talked to other girls on the phone in front of her, I would make her pay for crap when I had a pocket full of money. one day I talked her into buying me like 150 dollars worth of groceries. she also had a EBT card beucase she was in college at the time, and she basically let me use it whenever I wanted. . I did everything I possibly could, and you know what.. she never left lol. After like 5 months of this I said you know what...I think this chick likes me lol. I remember I told her you know what, i'm going to give you a chance, you are now my GF, you couldn't wipe the grin off her face all night.

I had this girl on such a string, I remember one day, random day, for some reason, I didn't go to work forgot why. Maybe was just tired. Anyway, my friends, didn't who were in college, did not go to school, no they got out eary becuase it was exam week. So we are sitting there playing john madden at my apartement all day and my friend was like dude you need to go grocery shopping. I was like hell no i don' tfeel like it. Then I got an idea. I called amber and said look, what ar eyou doing.. nothing, okay go buy me some food. like alot of food. she was like "oh i hate you calling me on my off day and you dont' even say hi or how are yoyu doing"... "with what money".. mind you i was playing around really i didn't expect her to do it, i was just BSing.. i told her she needed to figure that out, but we needed some damn food. I was like babe you have to show me that you are serious about me. She was like "whatever"...sure enough, about 90 minutes later I get a knock on the door, "come get your ****, the least you can do is bring it up the stairs".. my friends were just in ****ing shock" and the whole time she was like "i do all this for you and you won't even date me"... and at the time I had no intention whatsoever of actually dating her. but she kept it up for a while and she grew on me.

\The best part of the story is how she got the money. she got it from her Ex BF lol.
 
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Yes well I have a date friday night and also another girl, 23, who Iv'e recently met (not banged), shes hottish, who emails me yesterday blah blah blah "and I want to get together with you sometime".

I don't want an LTR with either of 'em. Want to spin 'em both.
But that old "AFC" mindset niggles at the back of my mind that I would be doing something wrong by fvcking them both.

I got to get out of that mindset.
 

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Lexington said:
So you're an a$$hole if you string a girl along telling her that you're interested in a serious long term relationship when all you want is some short term play right? You cause her a lot of heartache and pain because you deceived her.

But what if you make her think it was her idea to break up with you? I've tried this experiment for a while now and for the most part, it works quite well. Basically, you just turn into a huge chump when you've had enough and she'll very quickly dump your a$$. For me, that's pretty easy because it's just a matter of reverting to my old ways.

Why would you do this? A number of reasons. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the ONS thing. It's always awkward and weird to fvck a stranger you only just met. Also, I enjoy the honey moon stages of relationships....that stage where you just have lots of fun, she works really hard to impress you and of course, you get it on like a couple of wild rabbits.

At this point in life, I'm not looking for a long term relationship. But I do enjoy being in the early stages of a relationship. This is a great way to have my cake and eat it too. The only hard part is that you have to swallow your ego and make her believe that she "won" the breakup. You have to pretend that you're devastated by her breaking up with you.

But if you do it right, you have your fun and then let her go, making her think it was her idea. You're not a douche for pumping and dumping her and if anything, she leaves with a nice ego boost. You just move on to the next one you have lined up.
Also. I find this to be incrediably AFC/Beta/LAME. It's not my job to give some chic I don't want an ego boost. It's not my job to look like a chump just so she can feel good and I can be rid of her. I may have a little too much pride for that. Here is a better way.

I tell them after a date or two or when ever the "where is this going" question pops up, that I'm not looking for anything serious, if it happens it happens. That stalls them for a while. I never discuss a "relationship". I keep them in a state of unknowing (and secret joy) until they can't bear the suspense anymore and they pull out an ultimatum or demand clarification. Depending on how I feel about her, I either let them down gently as possible,or tell them to get lost. I've had women hate me for this and still give it up a few years later. Because you see, I meant what I said and I stuck to it. They know I'm a man who keeps my word. I might be a jerk, but I aint no chump and if I say it I mean it. Anything else is weak in my book.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Warrior74 said:
Also. I find this to be incrediably AFC/Beta/LAME. It's not my job to give some chic I don't want an ego boost. It's not my job to look like a chump just so she can feel good and I can be rid of her. I may have a little too much pride for that. Here is a better way.

I tell them after a date or two or when ever the "where is this going" question pops up, that I'm not looking for anything serious, if it happens it happens. That stalls them for a while. I never discuss a "relationship". I keep them in a state of unknowing (and secret joy) until they can't bear the suspense anymore and they pull out an ultimatum or demand clarification. Depending on how I feel about her, I either let them down gently as possible,or tell them to get lost. I've had women hate me for this and still give it up a few years later. Because you see, I meant what I said and I stuck to it. They know I'm a man who keeps my word. I might be a jerk, but I aint no chump and if I say it I mean it. Anything else is weak in my book.
What the heck do I care if the girl thinks she dumped me? I'll never see her again and I'll be busy working on the next one. This way, you don't make her cry (and she will cry if she really likes you). No one gets hurt and you get what you wanted.

Besides, a lot of girls will count themselves out if you tell them you're only interested in messing around. This way, you're not really lying....hey you held up your end of the bargain, right?
 

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Lexington said:
What the heck do I care if the girl thinks she dumped me? I'll never see her again and I'll be busy working on the next one. This way, you don't make her cry (and she will cry if she really likes you). No one gets hurt and you get what you wanted.

Besides, a lot of girls will count themselves out if you tell them you're only interested in messing around. This way, you're not really lying....hey you held up your end of the bargain, right?
Women lie all the time so why should we not throw in a little whitle lie here and there.
 

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Lexington said:
What the heck do I care if the girl thinks she dumped me?
That's exactly what I was wondering. Why do you care enough to go through all of that?
 

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Warrior74 said:
That's exactly what I was wondering. Why do you care enough to go through all of that?
If I could do things in such a way that no one gets hurt, I would prefer to do that. Chances are if you are a student of "game" girls are going to be very much into you. Thus if you break it off with them, they'll be quite hurt.

I care enough that I would rather not cause them a lot of pain, and believe me, I've seen some girls get MESSED UP after getting pumped and dumped by guys they really liked.
 

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Lexington said:
If I could do things in such a way that no one gets hurt, I would prefer to do that. Chances are if you are a student of "game" girls are going to be very much into you. Thus if you break it off with them, they'll be quite hurt.

I care enough that I would rather not cause them a lot of pain, and believe me, I've seen some girls get MESSED UP after getting pumped and dumped by guys they really liked.
Yet those same girls will fvck some random guy and go cold when that same guy wants more than a one nighter.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Lexington said:
If I could do things in such a way that no one gets hurt, I would prefer to do that. Chances are if you are a student of "game" girls are going to be very much into you. Thus if you break it off with them, they'll be quite hurt.

I care enough that I would rather not cause them a lot of pain, and believe me, I've seen some girls get MESSED UP after getting pumped and dumped by guys they really liked.

Take your cape off. I don't think you are pretending when you go afc. You see my way, is kinder, I don't have to lie or play games. I'm honest. Mama used to say two things about the truth. 1. it hurts. 2. it sets you free. If what I do hurts a little bit,it definiately sets them free in the long run and we can be friends or even lovers again in the future. You're way is full of deception and lies. You probably will do more to hurt your reputation in the long run by pretending to be an AFC than brazenly being a man.
 

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Lexington said:
Basically, you just turn into a huge chump when you've had enough and she'll very quickly dump your a$$.
If that's the way you like to do it, I have no problems with it, except that it sounds like a lot of work, sounds kind of time consuming.

What kind of specific things are you doing when you say you turn into a "huge chump"? And wouldn't you have to be a pretty good actor to pull this off?
 

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Take your cape off. I don't think you are pretending when you go afc. You see my way, is kinder, I don't have to lie or play games. I'm honest. Mama used to say two things about the truth. 1. it hurts. 2. it sets you free. If what I do hurts a little bit,it definiately sets them free in the long run and we can be friends or even lovers again in the future. You're way is full of deception and lies. You probably will do more to hurt your reputation in the long run by pretending to be an AFC than brazenly being a man.
I never date within my social circle. I live in a big enough city that these gals aren't going to "ruin my rep." You make it sound like all girls somehow know each other and they're all reporting to each other about you.

The problem with your way is that it automatically eliminates some girls out of the picture. There are really some girls who are only interested in serious relationships. They'll fvck like wild animals in the context of a dating relationship but would never want to simply be friends with benefits.

Besides, like I said, I do enjoy being in a relationship until it starts to get to the more mundane stages. There is a difference between hooking up and being in a relationship.

I wonder if mama ever shared with you some more pragmatic advice: what you don't know can't hurt you.

Yet those same girls will fvck some random guy and go cold when that same guy wants more than a one nighter.
Making quite a broad, sweeping generalization aren't we?

What kind of specific things are you doing when you say you turn into a "huge chump"? And wouldn't you have to be a pretty good actor to pull this off?
Actually for me it doesn't require that I be a good actor. It's just a matter of regressing to my AFC ways. I remember back when I was in my teens and early 20s, I used to do these things thinking they were good. I could never quite figure out why my (few) girlfriends kept breaking up with me.
 

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I tried this once, it didn't work at all. You might get away with this sometimes, but what happens when you don't?

The truth is better. It hurts, but it's clear, to the point and quick.
 

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Lexington said:
Actually for me it doesn't require that I be a good actor. It's just a matter of regressing to my AFC ways. I remember back when I was in my teens and early 20s, I used to do these things thinking they were good. I could never quite figure out why my (few) girlfriends kept breaking up with me.
Again, what kind of things are you talking about?
Once a girl is into you, I find it hard to believe that she is going to peel off of you that quickly over just a few AFC actions. I mean, once she is attracted, she will tend to make excuses for a few mistakes.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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It's best to be a man about it and cut the chick loose. Abrupt is the best policy. A big advantage of doing this is you maintain the frame for a possible return for the sex in the future.

Example: I dismissed a chick a little over a year ago after she pulled something disrespectful. It was instaneous, and we didn't talk for a year. Then out of the blue she contacted me with an adjusted attitude. We exchanged pleasantries over text, and met for a drink. Turns out that she pined for me ever since the dismissal. I banged her the same night, and converted her into a FB on call.
 
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