"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Getting with my friends sister

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word of advice that will save you a lot of headaches

DON'T FVCKEN DO IT!!!

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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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well I could help but notice this tread . I'm in a similar situation. You see the thing is I'm taking my friend's sister to prom. Basically I'm her only ticket in. But lately find myself more attracted to her. However I've done the research on the whole friend dating sister thing. I know it usually doesn't end well. I also know it breaks the universal rules that all men should follow. Luckily my friend knows, he doesn't care and thinks it would be interesting how things would turn out.

I could go on but that's getting into almost an entirely different. My advice to the guy who opened the thread: If you are willing to take the risk I'd advise that you try and come to some kind of compromise with your friend. Bring up the idea Hypothetically and see what your what your friend says.

I understand that many of you show apprehension at letting your friend date your sister. It seems perfectly natural but women have become so independent these days. If they're truly you best friend then you should be able to trust them with just about anything right. If anything you will have a better influence on the guy than let's say some stranger off the street that your sister just decided to hook up with. under the right circumstances I believe that things can work.

P.S. sorry if I came off Like I was bragging in the beginning
 
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bring it up with your friend. see what he says. we're all guys, if he says "no" then just leave it and thats thay. and both of you can forget the whole coversation
 
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metalfan20 said:
well I could help but notice this tread . I'm in a similar situation. You see the thing is I'm taking my friend's sister to prom. Basically I'm her only ticket in. But lately find myself more attracted to her. However I've done the research on the whole friend dating sister thing. I know it usually doesn't end well. I also know it breaks the universal rules that all men should follow. Luckily my friend knows, he doesn't care and thinks it would be interesting how things would turn out.

I could go on but that's getting into almost an entirely different. My advice to the guy who opened the thread: If you are willing to take the risk I'd advise that you try and come to some kind of compromise with your friend. Bring up the idea Hypothetically and see what your what your friend says.

I understand that many of you show apprehension at letting your friend date your sister. It seems perfectly natural but women have become so independent these days. If they're truly you best friend then you should be able to trust them with just about anything right. If anything you will have a better influence on the guy than let's say some stranger off the street that your sister just decided to hook up with. under the right circumstances I believe that things can work.

P.S. sorry if I came off Like I was bragging in the beginning
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If you really want to bring it up and if you have a sister. You could say that one of your friends that you know asked you if it would be alright to date your sister. Then you could say, "What would you do if you are in my situation?"

You could also say that it was one of your friends asking for advice. Either way, it works and is very nonthreatening. Plus you will get his input.

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first of all i do not plan on my friend finding out. i just want to hook up with his sister a few times, not a LTR. and its not that she is my only option, i have a few options. she is just somewhat hot and would not mind at all hooking up with her once or twice.
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You don't want your friend to know about it and you don't want to have a relationship with his sister? So...you basically want to betray his trust and screw his sister. Wouldn't fly with me. If you're that desperate, go for it. But don't look surprised if you're losing a friendship (and rightly so).:down:

There are lots of other girls with whom you can fool around.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Forget what I said early much situation took a turn for the worse. I now have no date for Prom as of present. Of all the things though she is the one saw situation as being awkward. I now agree with all of you have said never date your friend's sister. There's reason it's against the rules. Do yourself a favor and drop it now.
 
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