PeasantPlayer
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Read about scalp massages, vitamins minerals, etc the link I posted is a message board and contains sources from independent studies
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Chev.Chelios
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Rsd tyler nails it with his hair loss dillema
Young_Don
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Thanks everyone, some really good stuff for me to delve into, and I do agree that I have an attitude problem with it and I wish I didn't but it does get the better of me mst of the time.
Finasteride - yes or no? I mean people both for and against it make good arguments but I want to be certain about something I'm going to invest in, even if the results aren't miraculous, something is better than nothing at all. I only used it for a couple of months and had no problem with my libido.
On the subject of libido.. thoughts on nofap? I think it does make sense that semen retention does great things for the body. I've seen great results from guys who have gone nofap and used other products at the same time and swear by it. Besides the hair thing, I've seen guys come forward saying they have deeper voices, more confidence, less mood swings/depression etc. It's obviously something difficult to commit to long term. Might have to invest in a chastity belt lol
Finasteride - yes or no? I mean people both for and against it make good arguments but I want to be certain about something I'm going to invest in, even if the results aren't miraculous, something is better than nothing at all. I only used it for a couple of months and had no problem with my libido.
On the subject of libido.. thoughts on nofap? I think it does make sense that semen retention does great things for the body. I've seen great results from guys who have gone nofap and used other products at the same time and swear by it. Besides the hair thing, I've seen guys come forward saying they have deeper voices, more confidence, less mood swings/depression etc. It's obviously something difficult to commit to long term. Might have to invest in a chastity belt lol
TheProspect
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I think you're overthinking everything and preventing yourself from truly experiencing life.
Shave your head, and remove porn and masturbation from your life.
You'll learn to accept how you look and if you want to bust a nut you'll also have to practice confidence through repetition by constantly putting yourself out there approaching women.
You grow when you force yourself out of your comfort zone.
PeasantPlayer
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There are guys out there with great hair getting rejected daily
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
narcissist
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Accept it as inevitable. It does nothing to your self worth.
Young_Don
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Porn is a serious addiction but I find that because of this cause, I'm fine with not watching that shyt, doesn't really bother me.
I think I have come to terms with the fact that eventually when worst comes to worst I will buzz cut it all of and go number 1 on the sides lol I just don't even want to think about it.
I think I have come to terms with the fact that eventually when worst comes to worst I will buzz cut it all of and go number 1 on the sides lol I just don't even want to think about it.
There's a couple of threads in the health and fitness section that cover this comprehensively.
My summary post from the thread I referenced.
Read the other thread guys. Finasteride can have dire sides but I've read multiple papers and this was only found to happen in a very small percentage of cases. And even in those cases the effects mainly went away with discontinuing use. I've been taking finasteride for over 10 years now. Last night I gave the girlfriend the good news 3 times.
So it obviously doesn't kill libido in every case. I'm not saying use it I'm saying read the research and make up your own mind.
Note I do include a lot of foods in my diet that have been found 2 help keep the little fella up standing. Read the thread I linked for a list if you had to do just one I'd say pomegranate juice
My summary post from the thread I referenced.
Read the other thread guys. Finasteride can have dire sides but I've read multiple papers and this was only found to happen in a very small percentage of cases. And even in those cases the effects mainly went away with discontinuing use. I've been taking finasteride for over 10 years now. Last night I gave the girlfriend the good news 3 times.
So it obviously doesn't kill libido in every case. I'm not saying use it I'm saying read the research and make up your own mind.
Note I do include a lot of foods in my diet that have been found 2 help keep the little fella up standing. Read the thread I linked for a list if you had to do just one I'd say pomegranate juice
unfortunately it's the perfect product the hair all falls out again if you stop using it. Couple of balding spot otherwise goodvthatch at age 51. It's not about vanity I'd be quite happy to fall apart naturally. I work in the i t industry they like everyone to look 35 forever god bless their black little Hearts
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
guru1000
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Read up.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/side-effects-of-hair-loss-treatments.233559/
Absolutely, no differential between the few percent who reported side effects such as loss of libido/erection and the same few percent naturally (without meds) who reported effects of loss of libido/erection.
Finasteride/Avodart is perfectly safe as a DHT blocker in 1.25 gram/ day dosage, and encouraged by the top dermatologists across the country, with the succor of prostate depression for the 40 and older crowd. Further, if you read the studies in the attached link, for the few percentage of users who did report subtle side effects, their physiology returned to baseline after discontinuance.
Further, for the studies that noted birth defects among the fetus, those studies gave dosages of Avodart 10,000% higher than recommended directly upon the mother, which thereupon caused birth defects in 5% of rats. Here, Finasteride/Avodart is not given to mother, nor at a dose 100x higher.
There is absolutely no conclusive evidence demonstrating finasteride or Avodart at the recommended dosage to have any substantive effects outside of the few percentages who would have reported the same naturally.
Point here is simple. You make a decision: Keep your hair or shave it. If you decide to keep your hair, you act ASAP. If not, shave it, and own it.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/side-effects-of-hair-loss-treatments.233559/
Absolutely, no differential between the few percent who reported side effects such as loss of libido/erection and the same few percent naturally (without meds) who reported effects of loss of libido/erection.
Finasteride/Avodart is perfectly safe as a DHT blocker in 1.25 gram/ day dosage, and encouraged by the top dermatologists across the country, with the succor of prostate depression for the 40 and older crowd. Further, if you read the studies in the attached link, for the few percentage of users who did report subtle side effects, their physiology returned to baseline after discontinuance.
Further, for the studies that noted birth defects among the fetus, those studies gave dosages of Avodart 10,000% higher than recommended directly upon the mother, which thereupon caused birth defects in 5% of rats. Here, Finasteride/Avodart is not given to mother, nor at a dose 100x higher.
There is absolutely no conclusive evidence demonstrating finasteride or Avodart at the recommended dosage to have any substantive effects outside of the few percentages who would have reported the same naturally.
Point here is simple. You make a decision: Keep your hair or shave it. If you decide to keep your hair, you act ASAP. If not, shave it, and own it.
IBreatheSpears
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Grow a beard and some muscles. Combine these with the right clothes and you'll start looking like a total badass in a matter of months.
Rather than shaving it the same length all over, get a barber to blend it, otherwise it will look weird.
Rather than shaving it the same length all over, get a barber to blend it, otherwise it will look weird.
Young_Don
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Yea I can't even remember the last time I clean shaved, I've always got a decent amount of facial hair. People always tell me I dress well etc and I'm at the gym 5-6 days a week already.
It's just that the shape of my head does not suit the bald look at all.. But if it's thinning then I'm not going to let it get to the stage where I'm looking like George Costanza lol need to find a decent barber soon.
It's just that the shape of my head does not suit the bald look at all.. But if it's thinning then I'm not going to let it get to the stage where I'm looking like George Costanza lol need to find a decent barber soon.